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Postby retos1 » Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:50

Maybe I was wrong... I have played right now against oui Mr Berson, he is very good and I lost 6-2 6-2... then I asked to play onother unofficial set, I selected my TI-MD setup almost the same as his setup and I won 6-1... maybe this mean something... :(
I don't want to complain nothing, but after this test I think that MAYBE this setup help a bit more than I expected at the moment considering the level of play... but it's possible that with the time we can find a good strategy or a better setup or something else
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Postby OuiMr BersonBANNED » Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:02

retos1 wrote:Maybe I was wrong... I have played right now against oui Mr Berson, he is very good and I lost 6-2 6-2... then I asked to play onother unofficial set, I selected my TI-MD setup almost the same as his setup and I won 6-1... maybe this mean something... :(
I don't want to complain nothing, but after this test I think that MAYBE this setup help a bit more than I expected

I just think I was tired and I give up but I agree its give an advantage
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Postby retos1 » Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:08

OuiMr Berson wrote:
retos1 wrote:Maybe I was wrong... I have played right now against oui Mr Berson, he is very good and I lost 6-2 6-2... then I asked to play onother unofficial set, I selected my TI-MD setup almost the same as his setup and I won 6-1... maybe this mean something... :(
I don't want to complain nothing, but after this test I think that MAYBE this setup help a bit more than I expected

I just think I was tired and I give up but I agree its give an advantage


Oh :) that is one of the reason to say MAYBE :) I can't know if you have played less concentrated or if you have played bettere before, if so, you all can ignore my precedent post :)
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Postby OuiMr BersonBANNED » Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:13

retos1 wrote:
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retos1 wrote:Maybe I was wrong... I have played right now against oui Mr Berson, he is very good and I lost 6-2 6-2... then I asked to play onother unofficial set, I selected my TI-MD setup almost the same as his setup and I won 6-1... maybe this mean something... :(
I don't want to complain nothing, but after this test I think that MAYBE this setup help a bit more than I expected

I just think I was tired and I give up but I agree its give an advantage


Oh :) that is one of the reason to say MAYBE :) I can't know if you have played less concentrated or if you have played bettere before, if so, you all can ignore my precedent post :)

Not you are clearly better in the second match , but I was really tired too ^^
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Postby retos1 » Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:21

I'm still convinced that there are other good setup and that is a matter of time to master the game and see other setup (I hope to be right :) ), until then, we will have a lot of people using TI-MD :)
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Postby dsavbeast012 » Tue, 19 Apr 2011 07:42

Be on the lookout for topspin invasion/poisoned slices. Seen it a couple of times online tonight. Guys just slicing it Santoro style for winners.
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Postby Xogador » Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:08

Coach with those skills gives you only 35 extra points so it's not really a great deal.
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Postby Sherlock 117 » Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:19

Xogador wrote:Coach with those skills gives you only 35 extra points so it's not really a great deal.


Right, I would say it is a balanced coach. You get good, useful skills, but not a lot of valuable point additions.

Right now, the TI/MD coach is an unbalanced coach. You pretty much get everything you could ask for.

And Retos, that is what people were trying to say. You CAN beat guys with TI/MD, but it is much more difficult to do it than if the same player had a different coach. Guys have already tested it out by playing matches with and without the coach, and it has made a huge difference every time. I hope there is a counter-build as well, but I'm not convinced there is. Either way, it would be much better if this build was just balanced a little better and had some strengths and some weaknesses, and a lot of other builds could still be competitive.
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Postby OuiMr BersonBANNED » Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:08

Sherlock 117 wrote:
Xogador wrote:Coach with those skills gives you only 35 extra points so it's not really a great deal.


Right, I would say it is a balanced coach. You get good, useful skills, but not a lot of valuable point additions.

Right now, the TI/MD coach is an unbalanced coach. You pretty much get everything you could ask for.

And Retos, that is what people were trying to say. You CAN beat guys with TI/MD, but it is much more difficult to do it than if the same player had a different coach. Guys have already tested it out by playing matches with and without the coach, and it has made a huge difference every time. I hope there is a counter-build as well, but I'm not convinced there is. Either way, it would be much better if this build was just balanced a little better and had some strengths and some weaknesses, and a lot of other builds could still be competitive.

I play the women world tour without TI/MD and I havent lose a match
So I think TI/MD is not really helpful
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Postby dsavbeast012 » Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:11

Xogador wrote:Coach with those skills gives you only 35 extra points so it's not really a great deal.


Yeah, but it makes the slice, which is already overpowered relative to real life, even more overpowered. The guys I played w/ TI/PS would pull me off court w/ the topspin angle then just slice it down the line w/ super slice and I really had no answer.
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Postby Boruzze » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 02:18

try to slice these TI guys just in front to their feet i return play. Helped me a lot, even thoug ive lost.

on my service i payed a lot s&v, no chance for him against that.
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Postby Mack2300 » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:18

Have all the first tournament winners of TS4 been ts invasion/monster defense users?
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Postby theyoungmc » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 08:14

It's beatable, but I agree that's the strongest, specially after the ballancing updates.
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Postby jayl0ve » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:22

I will have my new Xbox and a copy of TS4 as soon as this Friday or Saturday (hopefully)...can't wait to delve into this whole can of worms! :lol:
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:22

jayl0ve wrote:I will have my new Xbox and a copy of TS4 as soon as this Friday or Saturday (hopefully)...can't wait to delve into this whole can of worms! :lol:


we will have to get a match in this weekend then!!
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