Hamachi...can it be used?

[Squilari]

[Q. Reese]

Hello,

Hehe. You did it again to me did not you?

See you on Gamespy to play Josh Reese tomorrow!

Good practice match,

[Q. Reese]

Hello,

Okay. Thanks.

Take care,

[Q. Reese]

Hello,

Perhaps you are correct, in terms of your allegations. However, all my "Best of Atari" and other pirated version users are connecting fine. Squilari and I have played many games with these individuals; and, I might add that I have had a better connection than Gamespy with these players.

I think that Hamachi should be the main server for ITST's matches. In many ways, it has proven to be far more superior (lag, PC DOUBLES, pirated Top Spin and "Best of Atari" users).

Thanks,

[KoopaxITST]

Perhaps you are correct, in terms of your allegations. However, all my "Best of Atari" and other pirated version users are connecting fine. Squilari and I have played many games with these individuals; and, I might add that I have had a better connection than Gamespy with these players.

I don't see how the connection can be better, since it's the same bits going over the same cables. Gamespy does get a lot of abuse, but on this occasion its unmerited ; once the game starts it's all down to the latency and connection between you.

I think that Hamachi should be the main server for ITST's matches. In many ways, it has proven to be far more superior (lag, PC DOUBLES, pirated Top Spin and "Best of Atari" users).

Well, I personally don't consider 'it supports pirated users' as being a positive feature. But in any case, Gamespy is easier to use and is the natural method to play TopSpin online. I'm not against people using Hamachi if they have a problem with GS, but to say 'Hamachi should be the main server' is not something I would agree with.

[PahelJDilla]

I think that Hamachi should be the main server for ITST's matches. In many ways, it has proven to be far more superior (lag, PC DOUBLES, pirated Top Spin and "Best of Atari" users).

Well, I personally don't consider 'it supports pirated users' as being a positive feature. But in any case, Gamespy is easier to use and is the natural method to play TopSpin online. I'm not against people using Hamachi if they have a problem with GS, but to say 'Hamachi should be the main server' is not something I would agree with.

100 % Agreed.

cheers

[Q. Reese]

Hello,

Well, we all are able to freely give opinions.

I am basing my opinion on facts. I have a server and I am doing testing for PC DOULBES AND BEST OF ATARI AND PIRATED USERS.

Currently, I have 16 members full of these players (perfect connection, better than GameSpy).

That is why I am posting updates to let the members, who voted, know that the POLL IS CORRECT, HAMACHI CAN BE USED (FOR PC DOUBLES, LESS LAG [IN MY OPINION, BASED ON FACTS], BEST OF ATARI USERS AND PIRATED TOP SPIN USERS).

Thanks for posting critical reviews,

[Q. Reese]

Well, I personally don't consider 'it supports pirated users' as being a positive feature. But in any case, Gamespy is easier to use and is the natural method to play TopSpin online. I'm not against people using Hamachi if they have a problem with GS, but to say 'Hamachi should be the main server' is not something I would agree with.[/quote]

100 % Agreed.

cheers[/quote]

Hello again,

I believe that Hamachi's level of difficulty for starting a game is very easy! Ask my server's members.

I have started 4 PC DOUBLES TEAMS IN LESS THAN ONE DAY, RAISED THE SPIRITS of pirated and Best of Atari Top Spin users within 15 minutes, etc.

Due too these reasons that I have been experiencing and witnessing, I feel that Hamachi is better than GameSpy (EVERYBODY CAN PLAY)!

Efficientcy, I like that..

Thanks,

[Q. Reese]

Hello again,

Koopax and PahelWaske, please do not get your feathers all knocked out of place!

I only have one pirated user on my server, and he wantes to purchase the original version despite have an excellent connection game via Hamachi.

He only did it because the original version had some features he was more looking into.

Because of his want, which I had greatly respected, as I do with all members on tour, I located as site that sells the original version of this game at a fairly decent price (in U.S. dollars): www.gogamer.com.

So, chin up guys!

These are just some reports for Hamachi fans to view.

Thanks again,

[Al]

Gamespy is the Official platform for Top Spin & this is what ITST uses. The rules are pretty clear on this.

ITST will not support players using Pirate versions of this game or other platforms like Hamachi. Fact is we have all had to go & buy the game, why on earth therefore, would we support anyone that wants to use an illegal version??

Although ITST is not officially endorsed by Atari or PAM etc, condoning the use of anyone using a pirated version would be just plain stupid!

As such, we don't & will not!

Furthermore if we discover any members using the pirated version, their place here will come under review!!

A pirated version is illegal & does cause problems for our matches, which should be played through the official route of Gamespy.

This encouragement in our forums of pirate gamers is very unwelcome! If they want to be part of the Tour then they have to go spend their money like the rest of us!

[Q. Reese]

Hello Sir Al Jam,

I do not believe that the Best of Atari version of Top Spin is a pirated version, for it is released by Atari itself.

I clearly remember a post by one of ITST's managers stating that using Hamachi is okay for its members (AS LONG AS THE OPPONENT AGREES TO USING IT ALSO FOR MATCH PLAY). I can't pinpoint where and who it was said by, please forgive me for that.

If you look around at my other post, you will see that I have stated that I have one member on my server that has a pirated version of Top Spin (however, he is looking to purchase the original version at www.gogamer.com [there is more details on the other post]).

He is out of the pirated version group.

Please re-post soon,

[Al]

There is a clear disctinction between those that use the 'Best Of' version & those using a pirated copy of the game.

There is no issue for those playing with the 'Best Of' version but my message above is directed at those using a pirated version.

Hamachi is not the official platform for this game & ITST doesn't recognise it as such either. If 2 players agree to use Hamachi then of course ITST can't prevent that but if there are issues as a result of playing through this platform then ITST cannot guarantee the result will stand.

It has to be understood that GS is the official place for ITST matches & that pirate versions of the game will rightfully fail if used in GS.

[KoopaxITST]

Currently, I have 16 members full of these players (perfect connection, better than GameSpy).

I still don't understand why the connection is any better. My experience is that it's roughly the same ; sometimes better, sometimes worse. The connection is made between your two computers, not Gamespy.

That is why I am posting updates to let the members, who voted, know that the POLL IS CORRECT, HAMACHI CAN BE USED (FOR PC DOUBLES

But maybe not on ITST - it depends on what Al or Abe would say...

LESS LAG [IN MY OPINION, BASED ON FACTS], BEST OF ATARI USERS AND PIRATED TOP SPIN USERS).

Well, what facts do you have to support your opinion that Hamachi runs with less lag?

But anyway, nobody denies Hamachi is quite nice, but I don't think it should replace GS.