Exact Service and Risk Return (Questions)

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Postby o Sinna o » Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:55

GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:
Rob ITST wrote:It is possible. Like I said, you must do it perfectly, and it is very hard to do. Using only LT is easier than by using LT+RT. The hardest part is timing the buttons - just because the serve is in does not mean you timed the button perfectly.

Also, you must aim perfectly. Not only must you hold the correct amount of time, but you must press at the right time, and in the correct direction (not exactly between forward and left/right).


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Rob ITST wrote:You can hit exactly on the line with the buttons, even with only 50 on serve. But you must time it perfectly - perfect timing with the aiming and perfect timing with the release of the button.


No you can't. Don't try to fool me. I am not a 12 year old Kid.
I tried it enough to say it's not pssible.
Jay said the same.

You are not cool because you lied to me.
Why you did this to me?

(hehe) :lol:

I mean you could show me a Serve exactly on this Point I marked if you like and find some time in the next days.

First then I'll believe you. Otherwise you lied to me. :lol:


you got here a ton of good informations about serving to the line hear what the topserver (ROB) and other good server say to you !!
its true . thats no lie and its no miracle - you can hit the line !!!
you must only find the right timing .
its not a miracle -its only the right timing .
when you can´t do it after 1000 serves -than change your timing ,you do something wrong in your timing !!!
its possible to hit the lines with stick and with buttons !!
i also can hit to the lines

a small tip : - when you got a good answer for your questions here in forum , from good guys -don´t say they lie . thats ridicolous .

mean,i understand you a little -alot of people attack you here about your hehehe ,but ..........when you need help relax a little !!
or nobody will help you in future - its only a small tip from me


I was relaxed. I just didn't believe it after the first few Posts. I mean there is not much tolarance in the Service Timing. That's why I didn't believe it at first.

I mean why should it be so hard to serve on the Lines?
Ok you Guys say it's possible, but don't you think it's a lil bit weird that I never hit the T-Line exactly after 1000 Serves? Weird that I never had the right Timing after so many tries?

I mean maybe I underestimate the Game a lil bit. I don't have a one and a half year Matchpractice like some other Players here, but we will see. :wink:
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Postby Puttu puttuu » Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:08

do you actually listen to what people are saying to you > you may have tried a 1000 times heck you can do another ten thousand . If you dont modify your timing you will never get it . Experiment !
Dont say to people that they are lying like that!There is no need for that kind of passive aggressive attitude.
Im sure people will have the patience to actually show you a serve that hits the T line ... but asking for help and reacting like you have done is not the way forward
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Postby o Sinna o » Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:13

Puttu puttuu wrote:do you actually listen to what people are saying to you > you may have tried a 1000 times heck you can do another ten thousand . If you dont modify your timing you will never get it . Experiment !
Dont say to people that they are lying like that!There is no need for that kind of passive aggressive attitude.
Im sure people will have the patience to actually show you a serve that hits the T line ... but asking for help and reacting like you have done is not the way forward


All right. :wink:
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:17

,there is only a small window where its possible to direct the serve.
this window is with 90 serve bigger than with 30 .
you must find this window to hit serves to the line

also when you will hit the middle line ,than its easier to do that ,when you move your character to the middle line !!
so you earn a bigger effect when you serve from the middle to the middle line !!

es ist einfacher die T linie zu treffen wenn du deinen character in die mitte stellst und dann longline servierst .

finde das lenk fenster !! ich erkläre dir wo das fenster ungefähr ist -es ist ungefähr dort wenn du denn ball hochwirfst von 3/4 höhe bis der ball den höchsten punkt erreicht !! in dieser zeit kanst du den ball plazieren!!
da ist das lenkfenster ungefähr . probiers mal aus

BTW: I USE THE RODDICK SERVE ANIMATION - AND IT WORKS FINE TO HIT THE LINE WITH THIS ANIMATION
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Postby o Sinna o » Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:50

GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:,there is only a small window where its possible to direct the serve.
this window is with 90 serve bigger than with 30 .
you must find this window to hit serves to the line

also when you will hit the middle line ,than its easier to do that ,when you move your character to the middle line !!
so you earn a bigger effect when you serve from the middle to the middle line !!

es ist einfacher die T linie zu treffen wenn du deinen character in die mitte stellst und dann longline servierst .

finde das lenk fenster !! ich erkläre dir wo das fenster ungefähr ist -es ist ungefähr dort wenn du denn ball hochwirfst von 3/4 höhe bis der ball den höchsten punkt erreicht !! in dieser zeit kanst du den ball plazieren!!
da ist das lenkfenster ungefähr . probiers mal aus

BTW: I USE THE RODDICK SERVE ANIMATION - AND IT WORKS FINE TO HIT THE LINE WITH THIS ANIMATION


Yeah I got it. I know what you Guys mean.

Ne das Ding ist, ich treff manchmal schon die T-Linie nur eben nicht exakt da wo ich es heute in dem Bild angezeigt habe.

Das hat auch nix mit großartig anderem Timing zu tun sondern wir reden einfach aneinander vorbei. Denn das was du meinst kann ich auch, nur ist das eben nicht so exakt wie ich es gemeint habe.

Probier den Serve doch mal aus und du wirst sehen das er nie exakt auf die T-Linienkreuzung sondern immer so 5 cm daneben fällt oder aufprallt.

Leute ich bin ja nicht auf den Kopf gefallen und weiß wie ich einen Service zu timen habe. Das Ding ist das wir einfach aneinander vorbeigeredet haben. Ihr habt nicht verstanden was ich genau meine, aber ich hab mitlerweile verstanden was ihr meint und das ist eben nicht exakt. Exakter zu diesem Punkt als ich den Service bisher traf kommt man mit keinem anderen Timing der Welt ran.

Darauf verwette ich meinen Penis. :wink:

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BeforE I forget it. What you can say me about the Risk Returns?

I tried a few and made a few but it's a lil bit unpredictable right?

It would be nice if you could manage a 100 % Riskreturnrate in this Game.

Ok then it wouldn't be risky anymore. But the normal returns are so weak that's it's almost impossible to break somebody. Ok I mean I didn't try a high skilled Returner until yet. Maybe it's much better then.
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Postby Rob ITST » Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:36

The returns are like every other risk: they're all a little different. It's probably almost impossible to master, but you can come pretty close.

The difficult part is adjusting to different serves - I can hit flat serves at about 6 different speeds, slice and kick at 5 different speeds - each one will have a different timing for risk return. Also, the timing will change when the serve is aimed to different spots.
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:47

thats exactly the point why its impossible to risk return to 100% .

about a good well mixed server you can´t see which serve come in - and with the different timings by riskreturn you can´t hit a 100 %quote .

its not like in ts2 . there are 2 diffferent timings by riskreturn . so in ts 2 its possible to risk return to 100 % -but not in TS3 !
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Postby o Sinna o » Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:53

Rob ITST wrote:The returns are like every other risk: they're all a little different. It's probably almost impossible to master, but you can come pretty close.

The difficult part is adjusting to different serves - I can hit flat serves at about 6 different speeds, slice and kick at 5 different speeds - each one will have a different timing for risk return. Also, the timing will change when the serve is aimed to different spots.


Hehe that's hard, but that's how it is.
The Return Game is the weakest Point of TS3 right?

@Master MDMA

All right I understodd what you said to me.
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:59

what you say is absolutly correct .
the return is one of the most important points in ts3 .
and the hardest part in ts3
its more hard to mastering the risk return as to serve on the line - its really difficult to risk return permanently in a good way .

when you mastered the return ,than you jump forward in your ts3 skill
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Postby emate007 » Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:04

Rob ITST wrote:OK.


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