Contador tested positive

by **Moralspain** » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:13

A World Anti-Doping Agency-accredited lab in Cologne, Germany, found a "very small concentration" of the muscle-building and fat-burning drug clenbuterol in the Spanish rider's sample on July 21 at the Tour, according to a statement from the UCI.

But the amount was "400 time(s) less than what the antidoping laboratories accredited by WADA must be able to detect," the cycling organization said.

Contador blamed contaminated food for the test result.
The cyclist has been "formally and provisionally suspended," the UCI said.

The experts consulted so far have agreed also that this is a food contamination case, especially considering the number of tests passed by Alberto Contador during the Tour de France," Vidarte said in the release, "making it possible to define precisely both the time the emergence of the substance as the tiny amount detected, ruling out any other source or intentionality."

My conclusion is that it is very likely that this extra-low concentration (of clenbuterol) entered his body without him knowing it and one of the scenarios is contaminated meat," de Boer said in a telephone interview. He said the UCI's "lack of speed" in deciding whether to sanction Contador suggests that the cycling body is "seriously" considering the argument that contaminated food was to blame.

We'll see what happens with all this situation, they've been trying to catch him from France and Germany, and they have finally found something, congrats, although the amount of clenbuterol found in his body wouldn't even help myself to improve my level in TS3 hahaha, so i believe in the presumption of innocence

In my opinion ALL the pros take drugs, you can not do what they do without taking something, but not that clenbuterol crap hahaha, that's for cows. If they finally find a "real" drug in Contador's body i hope we can cover it up us we did with Lance Armstrong.

by **Saarbrigga** » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:52

Shit for him... good for sport.

by **Moralspain** » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:45

The concentration found by the laboratory was estimated at 50 picograms (or 0,000 000 000 05 grams per ml).

UCI Press Services

by **Coolhand Texas** » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:18

I bet he got it from kissing a girl who had it on her lips at a party :wink:

(after all it did happened to gasquet)

by **Amazing Matheja** » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:31

Just know guys that about Clembuterol it's not about quantity... If there is, it's not right... Like Xavi said, it's a product for cows, you don't have it in regular human/sportive medecine.... (if there is = dopingc cause it helps to breath...)

BUT the weird thing in that "case" is that it's a product you find VERY easily!!!
And i doubt Contador is the "suicidal-kind of guy"...
There are so many new methods we (the "crowd", the public) don't know, that are undiscoverable for the blood/urine testers...

So, in my opinion, unless Alberto did a "Floyd Landis", i highly doubt he took clenbuterol to cheat/dope...

But i also highly doubt he's clean so...

The funny part of this is that the guy falls, but for the "wrong product/method"!

(Again, it's only my opinion...)

EDIT : One of the most valuable version could be this (in case of doping): Weeks before the Tour, at a moment when he was taking clenbutarol, he took off some blood from his body...
Then, during that day off on the Tour, he re-injected that (doped) blood back in his body...
(That day off was just before the monstruous stage of the Tourmalet...)
He surely "tested" (like in the doping control) that blood, to check it was ok, but since there was too little of clenbuterol he didn't even notice it...

So he didn't take clenbu that day, but had a transfusion that day...

Honestly, they all do this, in every sports... the problem is that, in cycling, since it's 90% "physical" (no technic, no tactic...), modern doping is really killing that sport...
Thx the Fuentes, Ferrari,... (the 1st to test heavy blood doping). The Pantani, Jimenez, Vandenbroeke, and others tip their hat to you.

by **Moralspain** » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:34

Coolhand Texas wrote:I bet he got it from kissing a girl who had it on her lips at a party

or from kissing a cow :lol:

(that drug is mainly for cows, illegal also btw)

by **GOA MASTER MDMA** » Thu, 30 Sep 2010 23:37

Moralspain wrote:
Coolhand Texas wrote:I bet he got it from kissing a girl who had it on her lips at a party

or from kissing a cow (that drug is mainly for cows, illegal also btw)

he said the glenbuterol was in a meat !!
he meant he had fooded that food a few days earlier ...........
a friend (LOL ) bring this meat from espana to france .and in the meat was glenbuterol
so its a adventure story from contador .

but ....this is possible .. no joke .the dosis they found is soooo small ,that this is possible!!-
some anti doping docs confirmed that .

at all ...guilty or not i don´t trust no one from this "tour de france" freaks anymore. they are all doper ..at least the best of them

:wink:

by **Amazing Matheja** » Fri, 01 Oct 2010 05:51

Just to be more precise :

wrote:If Contador took clenbuterol early in the season to develop lean body mass, stored some blood for reinfusion during the tour (not for clenbuterol and its effects but for the red blood cells), then the positive test for clenbuterol was an unintended result of blood doping. Maybe he had his own blood testing before storing it, but the clenbuterol level was so low, his lab failed to pick it up and declared it clean for use in the TdF but UCI'slab picked it up.

Source :
http://www.sportsscientists.com/

by **Moralspain** » Fri, 01 Oct 2010 07:11

Amazing Matheja wrote:Just to be more precise :

wrote:If Contador took clenbuterol early in the season to develop lean body mass, stored some blood for reinfusion during the tour (not for clenbuterol and its effects but for the red blood cells), then the positive test for clenbuterol was an unintended result of blood doping. Maybe he had his own blood testing before storing it, but the clenbuterol level was so low, his lab failed to pick it up and declared it clean for use in the TdF but UCI'slab picked it up.

Source :
http://www.sportsscientists.com/

btw the 0.0000000000000005 grams per ml was found i his urine nothing to do with his blood

by **Amazing Matheja** » Fri, 01 Oct 2010 11:51

Wohaaaa! Thx Xavi! Pfew! For a second i thought Alberto was guilty.... But if it's in the urine and not in blood....

Btw : It looks that the most important thing is not that clenbu thing, but the plastic they also found in those tests.... Was Alberto in such a hurry that he forgot to rip off the plastic wrapped around the meat before that "lunch"?

And also, was he the only one from Astana to eat that meat? If not, i guess his teammates should have the same Clenbuterol/plastic traces in their body.......................No?

Spain! Stop protecting names!!! Open that Puerto's case once for all and stop showing the planet you are the new heaven of "medical assisted sport"!! Cause i'm sorry but such domination in (exhausting) sports, and all those "cases" of doping are really not great signals sent to the world...... And refusing to solve huge case such as that Puero's case is another bad sign...
Sorry Xavi, i love Spain, but i don't understand what happen there in some sports...

by **Moralspain** » Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:03

protecting???, sports????..... mate ENVY is not a good thing, i shouldn't have opened this thread, we have different thoughts about this.
I repeat, i think everyone in cycling takes some kind of drug, but not only the spaniards for God's sake (Basso, Pantani, Virenque...), it's cheap to acusse Spain of everything just because we win titles in every sport in around the world, saying this because you typed "sports" so i see you are once again acussing Nadal, no?
Anyway I get along well with you, so it's better just to draw a thick veil over this discussion and move on, not worth it, trust me, one thing is sure neither you nor i take drugs.

by **emate007** » Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:11

Canadians are all cheating, lying, dosers. With their 'free' prescription drugs, it's no wonder they win all the important sport championships like curling and hockey.

by **djarvik** » Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:14

...does anyone in the world actually like Canadians? ...well, besides Canadians.

by **jayl0ve** » Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:24

Honestly? No. thanks for some of the crappiest bands in the world, Canada

by **Amazing Matheja** » Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:43

Man... I was hopping for a possible "chat" about this... Fierce maybe, but friendly...
So maybe you're right, since it's hard to express ourself well through the net, and in a foreign language, let's end discuss this...

Note that i tried to put some "if" in my sentences, cause Alberto could have done nothing wrong...

If you understood that i was accusing Spain to be the origin of all doping throughout the world, i apologize cause this is not what i think...
To me, Spain is not a new RDA, URSS (i almost wrote down USA^^)
And know that i was the happiest man on earth the day Virenque (and his team) were caught....
And i suppose the next UCI's toy will be that Andy Schleck...
Doping is obviously everywhere, and i know for sure in France too (with State involved!) Bernard, Baala,..... Be sure that those guys are "well surrounded"... As Bernard Hinault was at his time

I was quoting that source only to be sure that the sentences were corrects.... It also resumes (a bit) what i believe of that Contador's case.... I do have some other sources (people i work with,....) that are strong (to me).... but to express what i thought in english, i choosed that extract...

But ok... Enough with that "sterile debate" since i don't have any significant proofs...
We all have our opinions/ideas/thoughts about doping, and it looks very difficult to share those correctly... maybe cause there are so many..., also cause we don't have all the knowledge about it... And maybe also because of "nation pride" sometimes...
You're right, the main thing is to respect each other opinions, and let's try to not accuse anyone too easily... Well, from now, i'll try to.

Cheers Xavi!! hope you'll still be ok for some doubles on TS3! (Maybe you'll even be more motivated to whip my damn froggy a**! ^^ )

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