Osama Bin Laden

[Rob ITST]

there are (granted, unconfirmed) reports suggesting now that Bin Laden may have been captured and executed in situ.

lol I seriously doubt that. Not so much doubting that it may have happened, but doubting that anyone who reports that has any idea what they're talking about.

I figure the only people who know actual facts are the Navy Seals, the President, and some high ranking military officials - and I doubt any of them are leaking anything.

There's also unconfirmed reports that it wasn't even Navy Seals - it was actually Chuck Norris who single-handedly walked in and killed everyone with his bare hands. He then tossed Bin Laden body over his shoulder, carried him to the Indian Ocean, drank a Dr Pepper, and threw him in the water.

[djarvik]

You think Osama, the mastermind, the planner, THE terrorist mind...even for one second thought he would be able to defend himself from this attack?

You are too naive CHED.

And where do get the information that "the navy seals are an elite group of men on a mission to kill most of the time," ?

Sorry, dont mean to be rude...but I think you really clueless on the subject.

[Chederer]

no need to get personal djarvik...im just expressing my opinions. we usually dont send navy seals somewhere to "gather information" yes, i know this maybe their mission at times. but, they are trained to kill whether it be hand to hand combat or taking out a target from 1.5 miles away.

[Rob ITST]

So he "makes a move" when more then a few soldiers with automatic weapons run into the room from all sides? ....which movie you took it out of? Scarface?

No movie - it came from the head of the CIA.

Not buying it. Not even close. Not even remotely close. He is a leader, not a soldier. The is a HUGE deference.

Didn't he fight in the Afghan-Russian war as part of the Mujahideen?

I mean, seriously, what do you think he did? Just laid down and surrendered?

[djarvik]

no need to get personal djarvik...im just expressing my opinions. we usually dont send navy seals somewhere to "gather information" yes, i know this maybe their mission at times. but, they are trained to kill whether it be hand to hand combat or taking out a target from 1.5 miles away.

Sorry, it is personal to me thou....but sorry.

And yes, they are train killers. But most, majority missions are NOT to kill. You are grossly mistaken. And that leads me to believe that you know little on the subject.

Seriously, read up a bit, even in Google or wiki or whatever.

[djarvik]

So he "makes a move" when more then a few soldiers with automatic weapons run into the room from all sides? ....which movie you took it out of? Scarface?

No movie - it came from the head of the CIA.

Not buying it. Not even close. Not even remotely close. He is a leader, not a soldier. The is a HUGE deference.

Didn't he fight in the Afghan-Russian war as part of the Mujahideen?

I mean, seriously, what do you think he did? Just laid down and surrendered?

I think that 100%. And I think he even said that in English, just to make sure.

[Chederer]

ive read up on it....

[djarvik]

ive read up on it....

Link me please.

[Chederer]

ive read up on it....

Link me please.

http://www.navy.com/navy/careers/specia ... =van_seals

i do see your point about the gathering of information and not to kill....my only argument is when a navy seal mission is carried out it is not discussed; if a navy seal takes out a target its probably not discussed either. in general the navy seals are not discussed at all. they were on a mission sunday night to take out all targets inside that compound, they probably didnt even know who was in there. they were just taking orders and being a navy seal in my opinion

[djarvik]

did you actually read it. Show me "navy seals are an elite group of men on a mission to kill most of the time, not to capture"

[Chederer]

did you actually read it. Show me "navy seals are an elite group of men on a mission to kill most of the time, not to capture"

you are beginning to have the consistency of gulbis here. i dont think my "opinion" would be stated on that page. sure, a job description can say one thing when your job is actually another. im almost 100% positive that seal team 6 was created for search and destroy missions

[Rob ITST]

I don't believe for one second that he surrendered. I also don't believe for one second that he was captured and executed. If he were captured, he would have been interrogated (probably tortured, if necessary), to get as much information out of him as possible. He would be much more valuable alive than dead.

[djarvik]

so you agree you talking out of you backside? Besides a "job description can say one thing when your job is actually another" - you dont have an argument.

Dude, seriously, as I said, this mission was to kill. Somehow I have little doubt about it. And I do understand the hesitancy of administration to state that. I am happy its over.

The whole talk of him resitting and being killed because of that - is nonsense to me.

I do approve of what was done and do strongly believe he is dead. Lets leave it at that.

[djarvik]

I don't believe for one second that he surrendered. I also don't believe for one second that he was captured and executed. If he were captured, he would have been interrogated (probably tortured, if necessary), to get as much information out of him as possible. He would be much more valuable alive than dead.

He was not captured and executed. He was simply executed. Could have been a one man job.

Reasons for him not surrendering?

[Chederer]

we can leave it at that.....BUT, i dont agree im talking out of my backside