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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:12

jayl0ve wrote:OK, so...UFC 113, SHOGUN VS. MACHIDA, the rematch for the Light Heavyweight Belt is coming up on May 8th!! I really hope Shogun can knock Machida out this time, it's about time somebody knocked him out. If this were under Pride FC rules, Machida would be in big trouble. Shogun would just stomp the crap out of him.


that will be a awesome fight .
the first fight was very close .
shogun is a big foot stamper - that is one thing i like more by pride than by ufc.
in pride you can stomp and you allways can kick to the head
i saw a lot of fights in ufc where fighters do extra a knee to the matt to got a advandage -that the opponent can´t hit them . thats little cheesy in my opininon.
you know, hey i must hold only a hand or knee on the matt and my opponent can´t hit me brutal .
this is much better in pride.

when shogun can bring machida to the ground he can win.
in stand up ,machidas karate style is so unique .

i like machida since his knock out fight about rashad evans- i
i also like shogun as fighter
i think at end machida got the win with a decision.
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:15

bloufo wrote:do you guys that follow this sport know anything about this fighter-Din Thomas?

the reason I ask is because I see that former two-time world light-middleweight (154 lbs) boxing champion- Ricardo Mayorga is scheduled to fight this guy in an MMA bout next month.

obviously I don't know much regarding MMA and Thomas but I do know of Mayorga. He was very cocky and unpredictable and very awkward type of a boxer but with a heavy punch. It will be interesting to see how he does in an MMA rules bout.



i never heared about him.
for which organisation he is fighting ??
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Postby jayl0ve » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:19

GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:
jayl0ve wrote:OK, so...UFC 113, SHOGUN VS. MACHIDA, the rematch for the Light Heavyweight Belt is coming up on May 8th!! I really hope Shogun can knock Machida out this time, it's about time somebody knocked him out. If this were under Pride FC rules, Machida would be in big trouble. Shogun would just stomp the crap out of him.



i saw a lot of fights in ufc where fighters do extra a knee to the matt to got a advandage -that the opponent can´t hit them . thats little cheesy in my opininon.
you know, hey i must hold only a hand or knee on the matt and my opponent can´t hit me brutal .
this is much better in pride.
.


I agree, I've also seen a lot of this in UFC...guys exploit this rule by keeping both knees on the ground, to avoid knees/feet to the face.

I would LOOOOOVEEEEEE it if they made stomps legal in the UFC!! I don't think this is a very popular opinion in the USA (many fans here think that this is 'dishonorable' but I disagree), but I think it just makes the fight that much more 'true' and 'pure'. In a 'real fight', wouldn't you stomp on a guy's head if you had the chance!?? I know I would!! I've been in 1 'real fight' in my life, and the other guy f#%kin bit me!!! Hard! :lol: You think he got a point deduction or DQ for that!? :lol: NO, I GOT SENT TO THE HOSPITAL!! (BTW, me and that guy are still friends!! Haha!)

I mean, this guy is trying to HURT YOU, BADLY!! If you get a chance to stomp on his face, by all means you should be allowed to do it!!! It is not really any more dangerous than a standing kick to the head, and in fact most stomps miss their target...it is very rare that a guy will get a 'stomp KO', though I have seen Shogun and Wanderlei do this.

I sincerely hope Shogun knocks out Machida...it is definitely possible . If Machida wins with another decision, I think I will just vomit all over the place...
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:21

jayl0ve wrote:
I just finished watching the Strikeforce event...and HOLY CRAP as I'm typing this, a HUGE FIGHT just erupted in the ring between Jason "Mayhem" Miller and Jake Shield's corner crew!! WOW!!! If any of you guys watch this on replay or on the internet you will probably not see that, because they cut to commercial after like 15-20 seconds.

Basically what happened was Jake Shields was announced the decision winner (BOOO, btw) over Dan Henderson, and Miller came up from behind him and said "So hey where's my rematch buddy!!??". Seemed/sounded like he was totally joking around with Shields, but then the camera feed went black for 1 second, and next thing you know the entire octagon has erupted with fighting...like 20 people in the octagon!!@

Strikeforce kind of put on an embarassing show tonight...all of the fights went to decision victories, Frank Shamrock (former UFC fighter and current Strikeforce commentator) was unbelievably biased in some of his commentary, very unprofessional...and to cap it off with that BS at the end...pretty embarassing.


i was the weekend on party- i totally forgotten about strikeforce nashville .
its a surprise for me that jake shields won over dan henderson .

your describing about the battle of mass destruction in the octagon sounds for h**** shit,like in early UFC times
mayhem is at all totally crazy.
you know his show on MTV ? called something like "bully takedown)
i will download the event

BTW:hey jay ,you know WEC ? thats the UFC lightweight division.
next weekend uriah faber fights about aldo(champion) . man this guys are so quick . real awesome to watch .
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:39

jayl0ve wrote:
GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:
jayl0ve wrote:OK, so...UFC 113, SHOGUN VS. MACHIDA, the rematch for the Light Heavyweight Belt is coming up on May 8th!! I really hope Shogun can knock Machida out this time, it's about time somebody knocked him out. If this were under Pride FC rules, Machida would be in big trouble. Shogun would just stomp the crap out of him.



i saw a lot of fights in ufc where fighters do extra a knee to the matt to got a advandage -that the opponent can´t hit them . thats little cheesy in my opininon.
you know, hey i must hold only a hand or knee on the matt and my opponent can´t hit me brutal .
this is much better in pride.
.


I agree, I've also seen a lot of this in UFC...guys exploit this rule by keeping both knees on the ground, to avoid knees/feet to the face.

I would LOOOOOVEEEEEE it if they made stomps legal in the UFC!! I don't think this is a very popular opinion in the USA (many fans here think that this is 'dishonorable' but I disagree), but I think it just makes the fight that much more 'true' and 'pure'. In a 'real fight', wouldn't you stomp on a guy's head if you had the chance!?? I know I would!! I've been in 1 'real fight' in my life, and the other guy f#%kin bit me!!! Hard! :lol: You think he got a point deduction or DQ for that!? :lol: NO, I GOT SENT TO THE HOSPITAL!! I mean, this guy is trying to HURT YOU, BADLY!! If you get a chance to stomp on his face, by all means you should be allowed to do it!!! It is not really any more dangerous than a standing kick to the head, and in fact most stomps miss their target...it is very rare that a guy will get a 'stomp KO', though I have seen Shogun and Wanderlei do this.

I sincerely hope Shogun knocks out Machida...it is definitely possible . If Machida wins with another decision, I think I will just vomit all over the place...


i can understand that this is not popular in usa .
thats the general problem why UFC is not popular in germany- because you can punch a person where is helpless on the ground .
but that is TOTALLY b ullshit and untrue.
this is not a street fight- here fights well trained fightingmachines in a fight with rules . with MUCH rules !!
i see no difference in risk when i ground and pound with ellbows or stomping on ground - this ellbow shots hurts much more and this brings the most injury results in cuts .than stomping your opponent on the ground .
with that you must forbidden ellbows to the head

also the refere stopps the fight when someone is helpless.

on the street its different - THIS **** don´t know no break when your opponent is finished -


:roll: :lol:
AT ALL RULES ARE OKAY - BUT this cheesy "knee on ground behavior is boring "
hey when i must pay 50 bucks to see UFC - I WILL SEE BLOOD AND FLYING TEETHES :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby jayl0ve » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 12:24

Everything else aside, I'm pretty upset that Dan Henderson lost to Shields...he absolutely dominated the 1st round, it really looked like it was going to be an embarrassing night for Jake Shields..I actually felt bad for him!!

I really don't know what happened to Hendo after that 1st round...he was on his back for 4 rounds straight...Shields landed many strikes in this fight, but NONE of them were damaging, ALL of them were weak, glancing blows....Shields won simply because he maintained 'dominant position' over Henderson. Which is partly Henderson's fault, because he shouldn't have let Shields lay on him for 4 rounds, but it's also partly Shield's fault...he never made any attempt to end the fight, ever...he would gain full mount, but his ground n pound is soooo lame that he just couldn't finish Hendo, even though he had full mount maybe 6 or 7 times in the fight!!! :shock:

It was a unanimous decisions with the judges, but to me it was not a comprehensive victory for Shields...he was so scared of Hendo's K.O power that he was fully content with scoring points with the judges and maintaining dominant ground position, with little thought given to landing a KO punch. Even his 1 or 2 submission attempts were half-assed attempts, I never for a second believed that he would armbar or rear naked choke Hendo (the 2 submissions that he tried).

Anyways I'm dissapointed in Hendo and Strikeforce....hopefully Hendo will get his s**t together for his next fight, he is probably my favorite fighter and it sucks to see him lose like this.
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:00

first i think its difficult to knock henderson out .
when i remember right henderson never got ko by UFC .
till now nobody knocked "hollywood " henderson out .
i saw a few jake shild fights ,but i can´t remember his fighting style.
henderson is a great fighter - maybe hes little over his best time !?
its allways sad when your favorite fighter loose- i feelt same by chuck liddells loosing streak 2007/2008
you know that liddell fight in UFC115 ?
next events will be great
113 machida- shogun rua
114 jacksen-evans
115 liddell- franklin

i will watch the strikeforce nashville tonight .i must watch the henderson fight and the octagon mass brawl :lol:
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:44

i watched strikeforce .
first
since when steve mazzagatti (UFC ) is referee by strikeforce ?? :shock:
that must be new . thats the first time i saw him by strikeforce -
i was really surprised .
second ,frank shamrock is really a douchebag
THE HENDERSON -SHIELD FIGHT
henderson start great .after 10 second he shot a right grenade and i thought thats the end of shield after 20 seconds -but he survived that shot :shock:
seconds later another right one but shield recovered again-
he dominated shield totally in round 1.
this changed in R2.
in my opinion ,henderson makes the mistake to fight on the ground !!
in pre report i saw shild is a black belt jiu jitsu fighter.

i can´t understand why he doesn´t follow the strategie from R1.
he found no answer for shields groundgame (jiu jitsu). he had luck after shield mount him often that he can´t knock him out .

round 3 was more open,but shield mount him again and was short before to knock him out.
round 4 and 5 was same .

i know now what you mean. also how often henderson got mounted was unussually for him.- but shield can´t knock him out at all.

the decision was okay .

i will watch later the whole event .
also gegard mousashi (K1) is fighting this event
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:26

fedors little brother -
watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibmMl9RP ... re=related

great KO
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:34

KIMBO SLICE fights in UFC 113 about MATT MITRIONE.

its really interrest to see how good kimbo is after 6 month intense UFC MMA trainingschool:

i´m really interrest to see Tthis KIMBO SLICE FIGHT:

also the koscheck- daley fight will be great .
koscheck is a huge opportunity for daley.
koscheck is favorite -but watch out for daley ,when koscheck can´t bring him down it will be difficult to win .mean koscheck is also a good stand up fighter-but not as good as daley .
he got 18 or KO´s in 24 fights- brutal ko´s
i saw his last fight (about nate marquard when i remember right) .
this english mofo is a very dangerous fighter .
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Postby jayl0ve » Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:55

GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:fedors little brother -
watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibmMl9RP ... re=related

great KO


That was an awesome KO!! It looked like something out of the game Fight Night, where you can keep punching a guy as he falls over :lol: :lol: You ever see this?? Mirko Cro Cop KOing A. Emelianenko as FEDOR watches. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhFoQf70198

I'm looking forward to see how well Kimbo is going to do, as well...hopefully he's improved his cardio/physical conditioning. His boxing and head movement aren't terrible, but he can barely last a minute without losing his breath. He seems like a really nice guy though, and he's kind of a unique story, so I kinda hope that he does well.

Has anybody heard about this!? :shock:

http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/04/19/q ... s-manager/

I heard on Saturday or Sunday that Valero was being charged with his wife's murder, but I had no idea he killed himself yesterday.
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Postby Mike Rotchtickles » Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:09

Valero was a deeply troubled guy, no secret there.
By all accounts, mentally he wasn't all there after a serious bike accident a few years back. Because of the head injuries suffered in that crash, he had trouble getting a boxing licence to fight in the US.

Really talented boxer with 27 wins all by KO.
Definately one of my favorite fighters.
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Postby jayl0ve » Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:40

Yeah this guy was definitely mental. Can't say I have too much sympathy for people who allegedly beat up their mother and girlfriend, though :?

I'm not into boxing but I looked up some of his fights....all I have to say is he had questionable technique, like he's just throwing wild haymakers, keeping his chin waaaayyyyy too high, etc; but definitely I could picture him being entertaining to watch. Oh well man, anytime somebody kills themselves it's sad, as long as they weren't a completely evil S.O.B. I feel bad for this guy and what he must have been going through, but come on he stabbed his wife to death for probably no reason whatsoever.
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Postby Mike Rotchtickles » Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:19

that 'questionable technique' didn't appear so questionable to his opponents who all found themselves on the canvas. :lol:
but yeah I get what you're saying.

the fact that he killed his wife and whatever else, is just diabolical. :shock:
but not much surprises me when I hear of the private lives of these guys.
I mean let's not mince words here, the guy was scum, as are many others that populate this sport.
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Postby jayl0ve » Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:25

bloufo wrote:that 'questionable technique' didn't appear so questionable to his opponents who all found themselves on the canvas. :lol:
but yeah I get what you're saying. .


Yeah I'm fully aware he is 27-0 with all KO's, which is pretty damn impressive. I'm more questioning the quality of his opponents, not him :P He was obviously an incredibly powerful puncher, but do you think he would have lasted even a few rounds with Pacquiao??? I think Pacquiao would have decimated this guy with the way he leaves himself open very often.
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