Cheese Statement (Fair Play at the ITST)

[Moralspain]

Dear administrators, please answer my question
Where can I return the serve of the opponent, only for the back line? I can not get into court on the serve of an opponent?

you must stand behind the baseline while returning serves - and your return of serve must not result in your character stepping on, or inside the baseline.

[Desperado]

Dear administrators, please answer my question
Where can I return the serve of the opponent, only for the back line? I can not get into court on the serve of an opponent?

you must stand behind the baseline while returning serves - and your return of serve must not result in your character stepping on, or inside the baseline.

Then the rule contradicts themselves. It is said that you can not play as in life is simply impossible, i.e. you play really, but by the serve of opponent can not enter the court, some inconsistencies, once the game really, so must comply with all gaming experience real life in the game.

[Otlichno]

When you go into the court in real life it's more difficult to hit a big return of a big serve. In the game it's the exact opposite. That's the basis for this rule, hopefully Top Spin 4 can fix that issue so that returning from inside the baseline is legal.

[Desperado]

Another vital question, only it is written in English is not very clear.
There are three buttons, which are responsible for strikes
For example A = safe hit, B = slice, C = Twisted
You can click one button, then the indicator appears on the serve, then press the same button or another to execute it, everywhere you can have different serve.
In what combinations you can not do the serve?
In real life serve B + C do all players

[supinesmokey13]

but in real tennis particularly on the second serve players step in to take it on the rise

[TomBs]

Another vital question, only it is written in English is not very clear.
There are three buttons, which are responsible for strikes
For example A = safe hit, B = slice, C = Twisted
You can click one button, then the indicator appears on the serve, then press the same button or another to execute it, everywhere you can have different serve.
In what combinations you can not do the serve?
In real life serve B + C do all players

You can use all effects on serve.

but in real tennis particularly on the second serve players step in to take it on the rise

Unfortunately there is no such thing as 2nd serve in the game. It's the same as 1st serve.

[sebastianhu]

I've been starting to do really well lately because I'm learning alot from the better players but there are a few things bothering me.
Some players says I break the rules, especially those who loses.

I do use the slice return a couple of times during a match, BUT, just when the other player is serving out wide all the time! I think serving out wide like that is as cheesy as using like the lob shot, because there is nothing you can do, right? The best thing is to try to get back the return as far as possible?
But let's say I use the slice return 5-7 times durinig a match, is that cheesy?

Secondly - is it cheesy to use some shots, just a couple of times? Or is it completely forbidden to use the shot?

hope i'll get some answers to make things more clear

[C4iLL]

The slice return is not forbidden at all in my opinion.
The wide slice serve is.

Dropshots = you can do a few sometimes, but not more than 3-4 by sets I think.

[ELTXETXU]

The slice return is not forbidden at all in my opinion.
The wide slice serve is.

Dropshots = you can do a few sometimes, but not more than 3-4 by sets I think.

Wide slice serve is forbidden?? It's the first time that i hear that.

About dropshots, yeah, 3 or 4 are normal, but you can do more without problem, trying always to keep it real. Defensive dropshots are absolutely cheesy, and continuous drop volleys too.

[Corbon]

Only when you're standing near the tramline but then every serve from there is cheesy. Spin serves from the t-line should be fine.

As for slice returns, I don't see why they should be forbidden.

[Rob ITST]

Slice returns are not cheesy.

Wide slice serves are not cheesy, unless you abuse them (even then, they are predictable, so you should be able to handle them).

There is no set number on how many drops you can play. Play them when it makes sense: if your opponent is far behind the baseline, or if you are inside the court and have your opponent on his "heels". Never use them for defense, and don't abuse them (for example, repeatedly hitting them right after your serve).

[quackshotter]

Rob, I'm glad to hear you say there's no set limit on dropshots. I've had a couple people complain about mine, although they really exaggerate how many.

If you are a volley player, you really need to use the drop volleys when the other player is just running down balls from way behind the baseline. The other volleys just don't get the job done very often.

Actual dropshots I don't use as much, but they are useful when the other player is retreating backwards to chase down a ball.

From my experience with Top Spin 4, there aren't any major holes in the game like this. I believe all tactics can be countered if you're a smart player.

[Corbon]

Why is it so hard to understand?

Drop shots are fine WHEN THE SITUATION DEMANDS THEM.

If your opponent is always standing 1-2m behind the baseline, drop shot the crap out of him. If your opponent is chasing after a lob and forced to retreat far behind the baseline to hit a weak ball, advance to the net and BOOM DROP SHOT! You can also occassionally throw in a drop shot to mix up your volley game but hitting them on almost every passing shot no matter where your opponent is standing is unrealistic and thus cheesy.

And no, a drop shot played on a return is NOT realistic, and the excuse "Federer did that vs Del Potro" doesn't hold because it's Tennis God vs Whatever and it only happened a few times.

[Corbon]

Dear administrators, please answer my question
Where can I return the serve of the opponent, only for the back line? I can not get into court on the serve of an opponent?

you must stand behind the baseline while returning serves - and your return of serve must not result in your character stepping on, or inside the baseline.

I see no benefit from stepping far into the court Michael Chang style. You won't get aced sure, but your return will be weak as hell (maybe not with Neuwirth?). And why is slightly stepping into the court considered cheesy?

[emate007]

It was a big problem in TS3. You were able to play a super powerful double risk slice that was often unreturnable.