Start with 0 points or defend points?

[Ir0kuM4t4]

Of course that most part of this new players want to start with 0 points. I understand that, but I want to see the product of my efforts as I said. And, for example, Nadal just this year started to play in serious, and Federer at the beginning of the year had near 5000 points and Hewitt had near 4500 and Nadal passed all those guys and now he is number 2. So the idea of 2 ranking systems, is the best I think and it's more real.

[Ir0kuM4t4]

Of course that most part of this new players want to start with 0 points. I understand that, but I want to see the product of my efforts as I said. And, for example, Nadal just this year started to play in serious, and Federer at the beginning of the year had near 5000 points and Hewitt had near 4500 and Nadal passed all those guys and now he is number 2. So the idea of 2 ranking systems, is the best I think and it's more real.

[matefira]

hi guys

let's do it the ATP-way

[Aamchi]

ok, i've created an entry ranking. you'll find an additional filter to switch between race/entry ranking on the rankings pages.

so now we just have to agree whether to use it for seedings or not...

[Elargento]

there are quite a few players that have made big improvements over recent months & would therefore like to see those efforts rewarded in their seeding positions....so this is a good (& fair) reason to make the change......

Of course this isn't the ATP Tour, it's a virtual tour, so maybe some of you think we don't need to mirror things as closely as that here......

These are all reasonable points to consider I would say......

You could also argue that those that have made those improvements will get through without to much trouble anyway whatever their seeding is........but it does mean that there's the chance of 2 of the current top 10 having to face each other in round 1.........but others might say this is good & gives lower ranked players a better chance.......

hehe you see there are quite a few arguements for & against this change.....

Anyway I'll stop now coz my brain hurts!

i agree with defending the points

[Rocketsfall]

I'd say we do use the entry ranking for the seedings, just like in the ATP.

[[ITST]dellisar]

I agree with you Rocketsfall, defending points.

[Ir0kuM4t4]

Hurray!


I think that it could count to the seedings for not have high ranked players playing eachother in the first round...

Don't know if you guys agree with me...

[lewie_2006]

Yes, I would agree with comments posted by some of the guys...using an Entry Rank System and a Champions Race. This would mean the standard points for the new season would be reset (which is what alot of you are asking for) and we would also have a fair reflection of the seedings for the new tournaments.

I can understand people saying there should be no seedings to begin with as this will effect their chances of obtaining a higher rank, but if you're going to be a high rank you'll need to beat some of the top players anyway.

I would also say some of the top players from the current tour may not participate next season so this alone does leave the door open for new talented players...

Any other thoughts?

[Rocketsfall]

Yes, I would agree with comments posted by some of the guys...using an Entry Rank System and a Champions Race. This would mean the standard points for the new season would be reset (which is what alot of you are asking for) and we would also have a fair reflection of the seedings for the new tournaments.

I can understand people saying there should be no seedings to begin with as this will effect their chances of obtaining a higher rank, but if you're going to be a high rank you'll need to beat some of the top players anyway.

I would also say some of the top players from the current tour may not participate next season so this alone does leave the door open for new talented players...

Any other thoughts?

I couldn't have said it better

[InteristaMeazza]

I think it is a lot of work not very useful...The race ranking would be more representative as everybody would begin with the same chances...

[Master]

[x]Start with 0 points


I want to start with 0 points. There are only a few players who played the whole year. This isn't comparably to the real ATP Tour. If we have Defend points next season, it would be a bad decision in my opinion. We need a complete new start for all players.

[Ir0kuM4t4]

First, you are not forced to look at the Entry Ranking. Second, I think you haven't noticed yet that beyond the votes are 23 for defend against 18 to start with 0 points, the Entry Ranking it's already created at this moment and for last, the entry ranking isn't very important, of course that we all know that what will really be important it's the race...

[Master]

First, it's my opinion ok? Second, it's absolutely crap without a new start. Third, the second is also my opinion ok?

Please vote for "Start with 0 points."

[Elargento]

For my point of view I would appreciate that this season would begin from 0, because I wouldn't have a chance to reach a good rank if not, because I began playing last season too late. I think if this 2006 season would begin from 0,the ranking would be more representative because players who don't play anymore wouldn't be in this list,and new good players would have a chance to reach a good rank without being defavorized by the last season.

its the same we have the two rnaking one to see who is the best and another to make the seedings, its better for the one who at least played some tournament last year.