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Re: trouble with oponent and host

Postby kopfnicker » Fri, 31 Oct 2014 16:33

at Belonger:
Burna, my friend, nothing to say more than you've said.

You summed up situation as weel as you play this game ! And youplay TS4 f**king good, I'm well placed to know that as you kicked my ass many times :mrgreen: :mrgreen: .

Now your target is Hass2ssan, hang on bro :c !

can't understand how someone post so much about a match he has not see or play...
every match is different, new and have to rate on it's own. all what he have done before is uninteresting.
so please don't tell me what "great" matches he played before. or what a "nice" guy he is.
it's also wayne how many times he kicked your ass!!!
that you are a fan of him you said enough... *omg*

PS : and kopfknicker dares to tell you that Nadal is less cheated than Agassi :lol: ... both are cheated, but this is the opposite of what he says : you need more skills to master Agassi than Nadal. What is true is that if you masters both, then I thnik Andre is more efficient... but he's harder to use than Nadal who has terrible Monster Defense and Reach Swing combined to very high speed and stamina... More, it's literraly funny when he says each pro has his abilities without making any hierarchy between them... :roll:

if you want to discuss about this theme than please open a new topic.
i opened up this one only for the match.
and to get an answer from the host's. cause i get no one in the private messages!
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Re: trouble with oponent and host

Postby kopfnicker » Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:10

@kopfnicker - let me set this straight: Host is the GOD of the tournament, what he says - goes. You don't have to like his decision, but you do have to respect it and comply. If you have a problem with a host decision, contact one of our Management team members and make him aware, but be advised, host is GOD of the tournament, the decision will NOT be overturned. Instead, a Manager can look at it and advise the host his opinion.

i know host is god.
but what is that mean? that everyone who lose can go to him and tell storys?
so the winner have to play again?
... i understand your point of view. the host can't see who tells the true.
but have you see my?
before i played the match i read the rules and some forum post's about what is allowed and what not (cheesy tactics)!
so how can the host delete the match without asking me what happend and with following reason:
You're new to the ITST so maybe you're not aware of what is expected of you as a player. We don't allow cheesy/unrealistic tactics/play.

Please read the following. This will give you a better idea of what we expect:
viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=15300

...

can you say something about following?
i used only 1 (!) short cross drop shot counter while ahmed-75000 made a drop shot (!) against me! (i made the point with this!)
i'm understanding the "rules" right? that is allowed?
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Re: trouble with oponent and host

Postby djarvik » Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:57

"i know host is god.
but what is that mean? that everyone who lose can go to him and tell storys?"

- YES. Everyone can tell stories. But you will quickly find out that here at ITST we don't do that. Or rather do it when only there is a good reason.

About what host told you, I can see where he is coming from, you ARE new here and it is possible that you are not familiar with the rules or you maybe interpret them incorrectly. Nothing wrong with that assumption from the host.

I don't know what you did from your description, as your opponent may describe it differently. I think the rules are quite clear in English, but maybe something gets lost in translation. If you tell us what is your native language maybe someone in the forum can translate it better for you.
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Re: trouble with oponent and host

Postby kopfnicker » Fri, 31 Oct 2014 19:30

i have understand the rules. they were clear for me.
http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=15300
if there is written:
The List:

Continuously playing drop shots or drop volleys. This tactic seems to be used a lot in futures and challengers lately. Especially new and fair players should not have such a first experience with ITST. Saying that you have to use this tactic because it is a coach skill is not an excuse.

this is exactly what he did. in pm's and PSN ahmed-75000 told me he is allowed to do that because he plays with becker!!!
he did serve and volley drop shots and ingame drop shots in series (continuously).

it makes me angry.
he tell one lie after another. you can read and see it.
it's so clearly that he is lying. and i can't understand that nobody see it.
he said that he filmed the match (please look at uploaded scree 2)... but he did not

he said that i use defense lob ... what? that's so funny...
when did i do that? he played nearly all the match in front of the net.
and if not. how could he player like becker bring nadal in trouble from the baseline?
that makes clearly no sense what he said...
i only played lobs when he is in front of the net or running to it!!!

he said i make drop shots. what? ... when should i do this? he played nearly always in front of the net...
i only have made 1 (!) short cross drop shot counter while he made a drop shot against me!!
and that's realistic and allowed, or not? i did it only one time and not in series!!!!


if i make a centralize. i'm understanding right?
- i have beat him?
- he can tell stories (lies) for deleting the match?
although you can see on screens that he broke the rules with his continuously drop shot style? (50% netpoints and much more tries)
although there don't exist any evidences for what he blame to me? (how should? i played under the rules)
although you can see on screen that he is lying? (ahmed-75000: "i filmed match")
- he can flame me? (ahmed-75000: "you are first gay to send me in psn 'bad looser' shame of you")
- and now he has the chance do play again?
he has the chance to play like someone who has nothing to lose?
that is soooo unfair and especially concerted against me!!!!
...
- if i play again that means for the host that i told not the true?
- whatever i decide ... i will lose
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Re: trouble with oponent and host

Postby djarvik » Fri, 31 Oct 2014 19:45

You clearly have not understood me. I am taking no sides here. I have no way of proving who is lying. It is your word against his. Period. Clear enough?

OK, now that this is clear, I understand you are not happy with the host decision to replay the match, but, you are still obligated to do so as the Host made the decision already. So as I see it, you have a few choices:

- Accept hosts decision and replay the match.
- Not accept the host decision and forfeit the match.

Posting on the forum will not resolve anything.

Of course as I said, you don't have to agree or be happy about a decision, and here you have two choices only AFTER you played the match:

- Complain to the Host about your opponent playing cheesy or against the rules.
- Ask a Manager to review a hosts decision and get a second opinion to the host, to maybe help him in case he missed something.

That's all.
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Re: trouble with oponent and host

Postby kopfnicker » Fri, 31 Oct 2014 21:22

the host made his decision after ahmed-75000 only talk to him...
host to me in pm:
Replay the match according to the rules or forfeit.

i answered to host that ahmed-75000 is playing cheesy.
host to me:
From what I gather you both resorted to cheesy tactics, that's why I am asking for a rematch.

it's unbelievable!!! the host made this decisions only after saying something... without any evidences!!
he did not see the match ... he did not look at the screens when he decides... (made this topic after match deleting)
and he did not ask me if it's true what ahmed-75000 said...
he simply deleted.

i told another host this problem by pm. but i don't get an answer. (pm is still in the outbox)
so what can i do? the deadline is today... in a few hours...
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Re: trouble with oponent and host

Postby djarvik » Fri, 31 Oct 2014 22:27

Listen to the host.

That's enough with this thread.
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