Cheese Statement (Fair Play at the ITST)

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Cheese Statement (Fair Play at the ITST)

Postby Cro Morgan » Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:19

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ITST Member:

As you may or may not know, "cheesy" is a term used to describe a style of play that most players consider to be unfair. The style takes advantage of the games limitations, making it completely unrealistic compared to real life tennis. Examples of this would be: risk slice returning from inside the baseline, serving from the far corners (tramlines), lobbing returns, drop shot returns, among other things.

These are just examples. The point is, these tactics are used in an attempt to gain a cheap and easy win.

The reason for this post is to issue a reminder to everyone playing at the ITST.

The ITST is a place where like-minded players get together and compete. It is a safe place where our members play fairly. We are all here to enjoy the structure the ITST provides and to enjoy the friendly community that has been established.

We have always resisted the temptation to place restrictions on the type of shot(s) that can be played during ITST matches. We've done this to allow a variety of playing styles to be present on the tour so everyone can enjoy the game to its fullest.

That said, there are universal "unwritten" rules concerning "cheesy" play. We've never had to make firm rules because the ITST community respects their existence. They involve playing fairly & not using the known "cheesy" tactics that lessen this game.

We are proud to say that the majority of our community follow this ethos closely, but if you are someone who doesn't, considered yourself warned: "cheesy" play in ITST matches is never tolerated.

If you are uncertain whether your style of play is considered "cheesy", then simply ask the question in the Forum, or contact an ITST manager.

Also, if you encounter tactics in an ITST match that you consider "cheesy", don't keep it to yourself. Contact the tournament host and/or manager immediately. Only by speaking up can we rid the tour of any and all unfair play.

Regards,

The ITST Team

CHEESE STATEMENT (FAIR PLAY ITST)
COMUNICAZIONE UFFICIALE SUL GIOCO CORRETTO IN ITST

Membri ITST:

Come molti di voi sapranno o non sapranno, “sleale” (cheesy) è il termine usato per descrivere uno stile di gioco che molti considerano ingiusto. Questo modo di fare si avvantaggia delle limitazioni del gioco, rendendolo completamente inverosimile se comparato al tennis reale.
Alcuni esempi sono: rispondere in slice da dentro al campo, servire dagli angoli esterni del campo (quelli vicino al corridoio), rispondere in pallonetto, con la palla corta, ed altri ancora.

Sono solo esempi. Il punto è che queste tattiche sono usate solo per ottenere vittorie facili e sleali.

La ragione di questo post è quella di dare a tutti un promemoria di gioco su ITST.

ITST è un posto in cui giocatori intelligenti si riuniscono e competono. E’ un posto sicuro dove i nostri membri giocano correttamente. Siamo tutti qui per goderci la struttura di ITST e la comunità amichevole che si è venuta a creare.

Abbiamo sempre resistito alla tentazione di imporre restrizioni sul tipo di colpo (o colpi) da poter utilizzare durante le partite ITST. Abbiamo fatto questo per consentire la presenza nel Tour di una varietà di stili, così che tutti potessero godere appieno del gioco.

Detto questo, ci sono delle regole “non scritte” universali che riguardano il gioco “sleale” (cheesy). Non le abbiamo mai dovute rendere obbligatorie perché i membri le hanno sempre rispettate. Queste includono il gioco corretto ed il non utilizzo di queste tattiche sleali che sminuiscono il gioco stesso.

Siamo orgogliosi di dire che la maggioranza della comunità segue attentamente questa etica, ma se c’è qualcuno che non lo fa, si consideri avvisato: il gioco sleale nei match ITST non è mai tollerato.

Se non siete certi che il vostro stile di gioco sia considerato sleale, rivolgetevi semplicemente al forum, oppure contattate un Amministratore ITST.

Inoltre, se incontrate qualcuno che adotta queste tattiche considerate scorrette in un match ITST, non tenetevelo per voi. Contattate immediatamente il Gestore del torneo e/o un Amministratore.
E’ solo parlandone apertamente che possiamo ripulire il Tour da tutti i giocatori scorretti.

Cordiali saluti,

Il Team ITST
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Postby ANILTJE » Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:13

Ok great. Is there going to be some link on the TS3 homepage so people can read about it? Cause new members will say that it's nowhere written that certain things can be considered cheesy.
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Postby bergkamptheone » Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:39

What if we set a link on every tournament page about this...Everyone who signs up for an event kind of "must" read it then aside from he is blind :lol:
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Postby ANILTJE » Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:57

good idea....
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Postby [MDQ]FERCHU » Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:51

A PM has been sent to every player on the tour, so no prob :wink:
Just say no to cheating...
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Postby ANILTJE » Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:59

ment more for the new folks
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Postby bergkamptheone » Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:18

[MDQ]FERCHU wrote:A PM has been sent to every player on the tour, so no prob :wink:


Pm would have been great, but it was an email I think.
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Postby SphonX » Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:00

That's a great news.
Btw, i record all ITST matches since the 1st time :twisted:
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Postby [MDQ]FERCHU » Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:05

Yep sorry i correct myself, an email was sent to everybody.
Just say no to cheating...
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Postby GUGA_BANNED » Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:34

REALLY WAS NOT A PM, because I did not receive,
BY E-MAIL I DID NOT KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T open my box, I USE THIS E-MAIL ONLY TO ITST

Not all who read EVERYTHING THAT HAS IN THE SITE

WHY DO NOT YOU PUT A TEXT ON THE RECORD?
SO IF ALL YOU ARE REGISTERING FROM NOW, know. :wink:
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Postby Q. Reese » Sat, 24 Jan 2009 03:55

Hum.

This a an old thread mate. :wink:
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Postby Pollack » Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:15

It’s true that it is in old thread, but it’s also true that it is by no means outdated. There are many newcomers, especially in TS2/PC tour and not everybody studies all the forum threads, so GUGA is right that the fair play rules should be discussed in a more visible place.

It would be best if there was a “Fair Play” page, similar to “Rules” page and accessible from the main menu and/or the mail with relevant links and/or notices should be sent automatically to every newcomers signed.

It’s not obvious what should/can be considered “cheesy” . I played lately with GUGA who served “underhand” (risk slices) all the time and we argued if it was “cheesy” (in my opinion) or just “funny” (in his opinion). Fortunately after two sets I learned how to effectively defend and finally won in the third.

I’ve read lately on the forum that some players consider lobs as cheesy shots. I, personally, like lobs, especially I like my opponents playing lobs, even as returns to my serves, as I like to play volleys or smashes even from the baseline.

So it’s very subjective what is cheesy and what is not, and should be agreed somewhere in a visible place.
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Postby Samael » Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:24

Lol...Underhand serves are sooo easy to counter(just counter them using lobs or drop shots and you'll win the points),same as lob abuses(you have a lot of time to try every shot you want)...Anyway,both underhand serves and lobs in abuse aren't suited for ts2 for the simple reason that they're completely unrealistic and might spoil the fun for the other player.
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Postby Pollack » Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:24

I agree with you, Samael, that those shots are returnable, and also that they can spoil the game when abused. The point is that “fair play rules”, which all “older” players understand and follow, should be more visible, better defined and better communicated to newcomers, before they find (or not) this old thread on the Forum.
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Postby Samael » Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:05

And how do you think that could be possible?Information on the main page of the tour?Do you think the noobs read it?Most of them don't even know english... :(
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