Davis Cup Info/Rules

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Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby djarvik » Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:12

Welcome to the ITST Davis Cup! The best players of each country will battle it out to see which nation is best!

Teams

  • Each Davis Cup team consists of min. 3 players and max. 5 players with 1 team captain.
  • If your country does not have 3 players then you can form a team with players of neighboring countries or with players having the same citizenship as yours. You then have to decide which country you will represent.
  • If your country has more than 5 players then you have to make a team of 5 players first before you can start a second team for your country.
  • For each encounter 3 players are selected as Player A, Player B, Player C and the team selection can be changed (in special cases it has to be changed, see below for rules) for each encounter, the captain is fixed so he'll manage his team throughout the Cup.
  • To sign up the captain of a country must post in The Davis Cup Registration Thread with his team for the whole cup. If you want to be a captain you must discuss this with your fellow countrymates. We do not make the decision who's captain of a country!

Format

The Davis Cup will be a knockout tournament. A maximum of 16 countries can enter. When your country loses an encounter they're out of the Cup. When the draw's made the home country can decide on what court the encounter will be played. An encounter will consist of 4 singles matches played by the best of 5 principle and a doubles match (Master 8 CPU four Doubles partner). When a country has won 3 matches the remaining rubbers will be best of 3 sets. The deciding set is without tie break.

The format of the encounter will be:

Match #1: Player B vs Player A
Match #2: Player A vs Player B
Match #3 (doubles): Player C vs Player C
Match #4: Player A vs Player A
Match #5: Player B vs Player B

Note that all matches should be played in this order. So the first match will be Player B of the home team versus Player A of the away team.

Rules

  • Your country is only allowed to use characters in ITST Mod from that country. If none are available, then you can select characters from one neighboring country for which ITST Mod has characters.
  • For each encounter the captain selects Player A (singles), Player B (singles) and Player C (doubles).
  • If a team has 4 respectively 5 players, then you have to change 1 player respectively 2 players in consecutive rounds.

Example for last rule: France #1 has Richie, Vramvrim, C4iLL, isaldor and Sorauze. In first round, Richie, C4iLL and isaldor play as Player A, Player B and Player C. In the second round, Vramvrim and Sorauze have to be used, say Vramvrim, Sorauze and isaldor play 2nd round. In 3rd round then Richie and C4iLL have to be used again etc. It gives the captain a tactical choice, where he has to think about future opponents and so on. Also balances teams out and everyone in a team will also play unless they are defeated in 1st round.

Schedule

If there are 9 to 16 teams: First round after AO, QF after Wimbledon, SF after US Open and F after WTF.

If there are at most 8 teams: QF after AO, SF after Wimbledon and F after US Open.
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby C4iLL » Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:12

So, no different teams by country allowed ? Total freedom in the choice of the characters ?
The double must be played as the third match ?
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby djarvik » Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:25

C4iLL wrote:So, no different teams by country allowed ? Total freedom in the choice of the characters ?
The double must be played as the third match ?



Not sure what you mean about the teams. Yes, total freedom in choice of characters, same as on tour. Yes, Doubles must be played as 3rd match.
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby C4iLL » Sun, 16 Jun 2013 17:15

I mean, as in TS4 : France team n°1, france team n°2 etc.
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby Ugadalou » Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:53

I suppose minimum number of players per team is 2 ?
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby Robbin92 » Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:03

Are regional teams allowed btw? Otherwise we would get a tournament between France 1 till 16 :lol:
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby costiiforzaa » Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:54

Hi guys,
so first I have to tell u, that I'm very glad that this topic was open. Thanks Al! :) So I have some ideas to make ITST Davis Cup great and with unique atmosphere like its in real life. Because will this plan for Davis Cup which is now, Im not sure that it will be very good. If we are going to make something, lets make it at the best level! It took me a lot of time to make this stats and to write all of this. I think that this idea is a good one! So please guys read it all!

1st: Its very hard Davis Cup to have unique atmosphere while there is a total freedom in choice of characters. Example: Italy vs France. The both nations using Djokovic or Italy - Gasquet and France - Federer. Well where is the Davis Cup in the whole situation?! The anti-thisidea people will say that the players from the nations are the real who are participating, not the characters. Well its right, but this is Davis Cup! I can't find anything interesting in Italy using Gasquet beating France using Federer or inverse. The players have to feel the feeling playing using their nation-heroes vs a player using his nation-heroes or continental-heroes. This is Davis Cup! Imagine just a youtube video of ITST Tennis Elbow Davis Cup. South America playing vs France. Nalbandian or Del Potro vs Tsonga or Monfils playing on a court of Davis Cup. And the players using them are from the same Continental/Nation like the players. Well this will be a top promotion for ITST Davis Cup! Everyone who loves tennis will come with pleasure in our tour seeing the possibility to play for his nation with his nation-hero vs another nation! You can say that a player can use his nation-hero without having a rule to use only limited number of players (his nation/continental hero). Well this is right, but the atmosphere is less when your opponent is playing for Asia and he is playing with Nadal, Federer, right? This can be in the tour, okey. But lets make Davis Cup like the real Davis Cup, the unique Davis Cup! Lets make it a real pleasure to play for your country/continent!

So of course I'm not here only with ideas! I'm here and with suggestions! So here is the first plan (worser than the second plan, but less work).

1. Spain - Ferrer, Nadal, Verdasco, Almagro, Lopez
2. USA - Isner, Fish, Harrison
3. Canada - Raonic
4. Czech - Berdych, Stepanek
5. France - Tsonga, Llodra, Gasquet, Monfils, Simon
6. Latvia - Gulbis
7. Croatia - Cilic
8. Switzerland - Wawrinka, Federer
9. South America - Del Potro, Nalbandian
10. Australia - Tomic
11. Germany - Haas, Kohlschreiber
12. Austria - Melzer
13. Russia - Youzhny, Davydenko
14. Serbia - Tipsarevic, Djokovic
15. Belgium - Goffin
16. Bulgaria - Dimitrov
17. Greece - Baghdatis
18. Ukraine - Dolgopolov
19. Asia - Nishikori
20. Britain - Murray

So when I watch our ranking with 200 guys (they will be maybe 250/270 before starting the Davis Cup) I see that there will be only a problem for Portugal,Italy, Netherlands, Romania and Poland. Well, in this play Italians can use Federer and Wawrinka. Netherlands can use Goffin, Haas and Kohlschreiber. Romania can use Dimitrov. Poland can use Berdych and Stepanek. Portugal can use the spainish players Only for this 5 nation( something like 7-8 players) there will be a problem to fell the unique atmosphere to play with there nation-heroes. Another problem is that Britain, Asia, Ukraine, Greece, Bulgaria, Belgium, Austria, Australia, Croatia, Latvia and Canada have only 1 character and 2 is the minimum, because of the doubles.! :( Well Ukraine and Latvia (there are no ukranians and latvians in ITST Tennis Elbow, so it will not be a big problem) can the both play with Dolgopolov and Gulbis. Greece and Bulgaria can the both play with Baghdatis and Dimitrov. Canada will can play with Isner, Fish and Harrison and of course Raonic. Belgium will can play with Goffin, Haas and Kohlschreiber. Croatia and Austria can the both play with Cilic and Melzer. So the only big problem is with Asia, Australia and Britain. Well Asia and Australia can play with Nishikori and Tomic, but I dont have a suggest for Britain.. I think that the real problem in this idea is Britain, but I think that u guys will suggest something about them. With ranking that we have there are at most french, south americans, italians and british. So there are 5 french characters and 2 SA. So there is not problem for them. Italians can play with swiss guys so there is not a big problem and with them.

So to summarise: With this idea there will not have a problem for 80 % of the tour guys who will play for the same nations. There will a problem only for 20 % - the italians (not a big problem) and british. And for the players who don't have partners of the same nation will have to play with partners from the same area. And with this idea which I suggest I give the answer and for the who with who will partner from other nations. Austria with Croatia. Ukraine with Latvia. Asia with Australia. Bulgaria with Greece. USA with Canada. Romanians can join Bulgaria/Greece or Ukraine/Latvia.

So here is the 2nd idea(the better one, but will have a lot of work on it): Elias told me that there will be a second roster added soon with players like Monaco, Janowicz, Haase and other good characters who r not in our tour. So Elias if u r going to make a second roster, this can be solution not only for the tour, but and for Davis Cup!

So below is the same list like that which is above, but look at the players which are BOLD. This guys r the players who can be in this new roster and they will help both for Davis Cup and the tour.


1. Spain - Ferrer, Nadal, Verdasco, Almagro, Lopez
2. USA - Isner, Fish, Harrison
3. Canada - Raonic, Pospisil
4. Czech - Berdych, Stepanek
5. France - Tsonga, Llodra, Gasquet, Monfils, Simon
6. Latvia - Gulbis
7. Croatia - Cilic, Dodig, Karlovic
8. Switzerland - Wawrinka, Federer
9. South America - Del Potro, Nalbandian, Juan Monaco
10. Australia - Tomic, Hewitt
11. Germany - Haas, Kohlschreiber
12. Austria - Melzer
13. Russia - Youzhny, Davydenko
14. Serbia - Tipsarevic, Djokovic
15. Belgium - Goffin, Malisse
16. Bulgaria - Dimitrov
17. Greece - Baghdatis
18. Ukraine - Dolgopolov, Stakhovsky
19. Asia - Nishikori, Istomia or Lu or Soeda or Devvarman or Golubev
20. Britain - Murray
21. Netherlands - Haase, Sijsling
22. Poland - Janowicz, Kubot
23. Africa - Anderson
24. Italy - Seppi, Fogninin
25. Scandinavia - Nieminen
26. Romania - Hanescu
27. Slovenia - Bedene, Zemlja
28. Turkey - M.Ilhan

So this one is real better that the 1st one. With this one there is no problem with Italy, Netherlands and Poland, Asia, Australia, Croatia, Canada. Britains now can use and Anderson, so and this problem is out. The nations/ like Turkey, Slovenia, Romania and Scandinavia arent a big problem, because there are not a lot of guys from this countries in ITST tour now. Africa too have now a character! But we dont know, maybe there are not joining because there nation-hero are not in the 1st roster!

So to summarize: This idea is better that the first one, because some problems are out. But there will be a hard work to make the second roster, but maybe Elias already started it. I don't know. In the same time countries/continent like Romania, Slovenia, Turkey, Italy, Poland, Netherland and Africa will have their characters in the roster. So the players that I suggest to be add are 17!!! Its not a big number! Well its a half of a roster, but not a very big number. If you are going to make a full 2nd roster, so you will have 19 free space which is a lot. :wink:


I can suggest my help at Elias for the tests in the second roster! I will be free every day from 30th June to 1st August! I will be glad if you guys tell me what you are thinking about my ideas! :)

GOOD DAY for everyone and thank for that you read it! :c :c
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby ELTXETXU » Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:20

@G.Dimitrov Your idea is great. It would be funny and more realistic to play with your countryman players.

Personally, i have a problem with Spain. There are 5 spanish characters in the roaster, but i'm the only spanish guy playing ITST TE (well i saw another new guy but he have signed for 3 tournaments and all his results are no match or WO)

What we should do? Maybe an Iberican Team between Portugal, Andorra and Spain?? Maybe a Spanish old colonial team between Spain, Filipines and Guinea Ecuatorial? :D it's just a joke, but i should find a solution. Otherwise Spain won't play Davis Cup
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby costiiforzaa » Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:29

ELTXETXU wrote:@G.Dimitrov Your idea is great. It would be fun and more realistic to play with your countryman players.

Personally, i have a problem with Spain. There are 5 spanish characters in the roaster, but i'm the only spanish guy playing ITST TE (well i saw another new guy but he have signed for 3 tournaments and all his results are no match or WO)

What we should do? Maybe an Iberican Team between Portugal, Andorra and Spain?? Maybe a Spanish old colonial team between Spain, Filipines and Guinea Ecuatorial? :D it's just a joke, but i should find a solution. Otherwise Spain won't play Davis Cup
Thank you for your comment!
About your problem, well I think that Iberican team is the best choice! In this way the portugals will play with the spanish characters. So two problems with one step are out. ;)
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby Uchiha Muss » Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:04

PANIC!!!

There are 5 players from Ireland and only me and Fedserena are active. Can we borrow some players from other countries. Invade them and make 'em slaves? buy them perhaps? :lol:

Audition is on for team Ireland. Your best chance to be in a team where everyone is equal, preferably ELO 1050+. Come on in and you won't be disappointed. Contact me with your details and I'll consider you for our team.
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby djarvik » Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:51

I'd like to hear more opinions on this from future participants. So speak up guys! :)
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby costiiforzaa » Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:15

Uchiha Muss wrote:PANIC!!!

There are 5 players from Ireland and only me and Fedserena are active. Can we borrow some players from other countries. Invade them and make 'em slaves? buy them perhaps? :lol:

Audition is on for team Ireland. Your best chance to be in a team where everyone is equal, preferably ELO 1050+. Come on in and you won't be disappointed. Contact me with your details and I'll consider you for our team.
1st: There isnt team Ireland there is only team Great Britain, so look up for some other britains, they are a lot.
2nd: No alcohol for boys - quatating Moe
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby costiiforzaa » Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:43

VMoe86 wrote:No alcohol for G.Dimitrov:

http://www.daviscup.com/en/teams/team/profile.aspx?id=IRL
God damn, u cought me! I will never forget it! I will bring it back to you! :twisted:
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Re: Davis Cup Info/Rules

Postby Richie1308 » Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:46

I really like your idea G.Dimitrov ! Especially to find a solution to have people playing with players from their countries, and everyone with the Davis Cup outfits for each countries, one of the two countries hosts the match and can chose whatever court they want. Everything that can create the sensation de play like in real Davis Cup is great for the immersion. 8)
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