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Postby VillaJ100 » Wed, 06 Apr 2011 22:29

same, although i can't play as often as i like due to injuries. But i can still play to a good level when i do hehe.
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Postby jayl0ve » Fri, 08 Apr 2011 09:28

djarvik wrote:Jay, you really embraced that poly ah? :lol:

"I own a wooden racquet that I strung with modern poly strings"


I am currently stringing myself and I already bought so many different poly strings I wanna try :shock: I wish I had more time to play :cry:


Hell yeah man, I used to use nothing but Babolat natural gut but that got to be too expensive...poly's perform much better they just don't feel QUITE as good, but many poly's I've tried truly do have a 'gut-like' feel so it doesn't really matter anyways...polys are just better
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:19

OK, so here it goes.

Disclaimer: I am not an expert tester nor I claim to be one. But I do test near every new racket that comes out. I love to do it and love to see the small nuances of each, if any.

Organix 10 325 & 295 review.
Both strung with Volkl Power Fiber II 16 Multi at 50lbs.

Groundstrokes
X10 325 - I was very impressed by this racket on groundies. It feels like no other racket on the market. It is both stiff and somehow soft. The frame feels sturdy and doesn't bend much on impact, but when you do "touch" the ball you sorta feel nothing. No vibration into the handle. It is muted to the point where it is non-existent. It could be a great thing or a horrible one. Some people don't realize that vibration is their best friend, it is a feedback into the arm of what the racket does. the X10 325 has very little of it. Meaning that you actually feel most shots nice soft and the same, and have to visual evaluate what the ball does. For someone with solid strokes 4.5+ this can allow for more concentration on the game itself, then their strokes. But for someone who doesn't produce consistent strokes this could be a nightmare. The ball will likely fly all over and since there is very little feedback, players below 4.0 may struggle improving with it. To make the matters worse, the racket is extremely comfortable, so it likely to feel great in hands of any player.
Personally, I absolutely loved the feel. Buttery smooth and scalpel precise. Somehow they have managed to combine the feel and precision in this racket making it the most comfortable frame I have used. Tons of spin, even with Multi. Powerful, yet contained. With a bit of string tuning you can swing-out with it with no fear of hitting long.
Note: with PB10, I had hard time fining the flat FH, no such issues with X10. This is a complete different racket thou, it feel different, plays different.

X10 295 - the main difference in this frame (from the 325 ver) is the balance and weight. Same feel in this one as well, but this version is less powerful and more mobile. Hitting on the run was a breeze. I almost preferred to be moving then hitting it from stationary position. Tons of top spin is where this one excels. Stable enough to take on big hitters, but not powerful enough to generate your own flat pace. Once again, when hitting, it almost feels like strings are disconnected from the frame at the impact point, and then quickly connect back for minimal feedback. Very comfortable feeling. Maybe too comfortable for some.

Volley
Both X10 325 and X10 295 made me want to come to net more then I already do. Lack a bit of a touch, feel ...but is extremely stable and plush. Block volleys on strong shots are effortless and with good depth. This is not a stick for SV player or anyone who liked to push to the net. While both are extremely mobile, the feel of the racket and muted vibration response will likely not satisfy volley players.

Serves
Both are a tad underpowered on flat serves, but the slice and kick were very good. I would say the kick serve especially is good. Flat serve was easy to find for me, but both rackets lack mass to make it really count. Weight may be added, which will likely affect how the racked plays in other areas.

Serve return
Any time you have pace to work with both X10s make you look like a genius. They absorb and redirect pace without the harsh feeling on the arm and thus add you more confidence and comfort.

Overall
While the 295 is a bit light for me, and since my knowledge in customizing frames is minimal, I will be picking up X10 325 and skipping on the PB10 demoed earlier. I can't think of any single thing that puts the PB10 at advantage over X10. The only thing is maybe fore feel. PB10 allows you to have a bit more feedback in your arm and is a bit better at the net. In every other area the X10 winds for me hands down.

I'd be happy to answer if you have questions guys. :P
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Postby Moralspain » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:59

thanks for the review, liked it, many details. Solid touch...that's what i love the most from any racquet

i'll order my Organix 325 gr shortly, and i think i'll keep using the alu power strings (don't know yet), some mates have played with Tecnifibre Black code (17) (poly), and also with Tecnifibre X-code (17) and they're ver pleased with the result.
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:04

I also plan to use Poly in Organix. I didn't string them with Multi, they came like that as a demo.

I think with a good Poly the X10 325 will be a beast! It so easy to swing and the amount of spin I got with Multi was crazy. So me thinks with poly it will be great.

BTW - I am buying both versions, my wife will use the 295 and me 325. :P

I have a few of these and they are going on as soon as frames are delivered:

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Postby Moralspain » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:12

i think Solinco only distributes for the american market, no?
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:20

Moralspain wrote:i think Solinco only distributes for the american market, no?


http://www.solincosports.com/contact/contact.php

It looks like they have distribution in France. (Europe)


I don't know, I have tried all their strings and all are great Polys. They make good stuff.

Barb wire has more spin then anything that I tried, by a good margin.
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Postby Moralspain » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:28

I usually string my racquets, i play with Head Prestige (98sq, and string pattern 18x20), at 55lbs with ALU Power, so now we've got a 98sq inch racquet as well, but 16x19 string pattern, which is new for me btw. How did you feel those 50lbs, do you think you could go for a higher tension?....sorry to bother you man
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:34

Definitely. I was thinking a poly at 55M/51C to start with.

I felt 50lbs was a bit too low for me. But then again it was a multi...so not sure.

But from what I found, Polys lose their playability and technical advantage when you go too high. I have strung Polys as high as 60lbs and its crap :lol:

Ideally, mid 50s or lower for poly. Mid 50s being if you like the tight string. I would even go to high 40s on an 18x20 pattern. I have strung my PSL GT at 49/47 and it felt good for spin, but flat shots were flying a bit on me.

I think you will find the X10 16x19 pattern play very similar to your 18x20 Head. The reason is the string pattern itself. It is quite tight near the center and spreads out from there.

I kinda think this is why I was able to find flat and top spin with this one with no problems, almost immediately.
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:39

djarvik wrote:I also plan to use Poly in Organix. I didn't string them with Multi, they came like that as a demo.

I think with a good Poly the X10 325 will be a beast! It so easy to swing and the amount of spin I got with Multi was crazy. So me thinks with poly it will be great.

BTW - I am buying both versions, my wife will use the 295 and me 325. :P

I have a few of these and they are going on as soon as frames are delivered:

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Postby Moralspain » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:49

Coolhand Texas wrote:
djarvik wrote:I also plan to use Poly in Organix. I didn't string them with Multi, they came like that as a demo.

I think with a good Poly the X10 325 will be a beast! It so easy to swing and the amount of spin I got with Multi was crazy. So me thinks with poly it will be great.

BTW - I am buying both versions, my wife will use the 295 and me 325. :P

I have a few of these and they are going on as soon as frames are delivered:

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How is this stuff on your arm?


there you go

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Postby djarvik » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:58

^ Exactly! :lol:


Coolhand, its one of the softest polys out there. It just sound harsh, but it is really not.

One downside - depending on your game, they "bar wire" pattern may not last long enough.

But even when the pattern is gone - you end up with a very good soft poly - just less spin.
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Postby Rob ITST » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:28

You guys really should try Dunlop Black Widow. Probably the most spin, and definitely the softest poly out there - softer than some synthetics even.
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:31

I actually took notice of it when you mentioned it in another thread. This is on my next list to buy. Just right now I am POLY-LOADED! :lol: Need to use em up!

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Postby Rob ITST » Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:40

Moralspain wrote:I usually string my racquets, i play with Head Prestige (98sq, and string pattern 18x20), at 55lbs with ALU Power, so now we've got a 98sq inch racquet as well, but 16x19 string pattern, which is new for me btw. How did you feel those 50lbs, do you think you could go for a higher tension?....sorry to bother you man


Generally, when going from 16x18 to 18x20 (with equal headsize), I suggest a 5-10% increase in tension.

Like Djarvik said, polys can play pretty crappy if strung too tight. However, they also lose tension rather quickly, so the worst thing that can happen is that you'll need some time to break them in.

This may not sound too technical, but when I try higher tension and I don't like it, I do this:

Lay the racquet flat on the ground, on top of a towel (or anything that'll keep you from scratching the paint), then stand on the strings for a second. Loosens 'em up quickly. :lol: It's not perfect, but it works and it's better than cutting out new strings.
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