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Postby VillaJ100 » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:05

OuiMr Berson wrote:
VillaJ100 wrote:Simon has about much chance of winning a slam as me.

You are the one you made of Ryan Harrison a dark horse for US Open 2011, right ?
You seems really good in bet.
I am confident for Simon winning a slam now


I don't think I specified a year.
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Postby Moralspain » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:53

I agree with Villa here, players like Simon, Verdasco etc have talent, actually they're great players, and capable, if they have a good day, of beating the top guys, but winning a GS is not that simple, that's bigger, and i don't see them winning any Major in the future.

What players like the top 3 guys right now have done all these years (mainly Fed and Raf) may seem easy, but it's not.
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Postby Elargento » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:02

i've watched ryan harrison on RG and that guy is a future top ten for sure.
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Postby djarvik » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:52

Elargento wrote:i don't think delpo has been figured out. he is not at the top of his phisical abilities yet, besides he always had trouble playing vs simon, it's not a good matchup for delpo.


True, not the best match-up for him. But why? ;) try to explain and you will see where DelPo fits today.

Don't get me wrong, he is still a top notch player and a drak horse at any event.....but a dark horse now, not a primary contender.
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Postby Elargento » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:17

djarvik wrote:
Elargento wrote:i don't think delpo has been figured out. he is not at the top of his phisical abilities yet, besides he always had trouble playing vs simon, it's not a good matchup for delpo.


True, not the best match-up for him. But why? ;) try to explain and you will see where DelPo fits today.

Don't get me wrong, he is still a top notch player and a drak horse at any event.....but a dark horse now, not a primary contender.


you said it, now he isn't a primary contender (it doesn't mean he is done). it's like the federer-nadal matchup (best for nadal) and the federer-djok matchup (despite the results it seems to me its better for fed than nadal). i don't know why but for some reason some players are more comfortably playing some players, it isn't just figuring someone out, simon always plays like this vs everyone, it just happens to hurt delpo but when he was at his best he could win despite this disadvantage due to the fact that delpo clearly is a better player than gilles.
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Postby Moralspain » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:43

yep Simon is very comfortable playing against Del Po, the reason is that Simon kinda "drains" the power from Del Po's shots (btw probably the best hard hitter out there), Gilles is an expert at doing that, and Del Po never changes the way he plays, it's all about power, it's difficult to see him hitting a slice, never changes the pace.
When Simon has to generate his own power he usually has more difficulties in beating his opponents.
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Postby djarvik » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:48

Well, Gulbis got him figured out 8) :lol:
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Postby Elargento » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:55

gulbis who?
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Postby Moralspain » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:55

djarvik wrote:Well, Gulbis got him figured out 8) :lol:


you do know tennis is not an exact science
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Postby Moralspain » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:57

Elargento wrote:gulbis who?


future number 1, don't know how far is that "future" though.....we've got to be patient i guess :yawn :yawn
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Postby Moralspain » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:58

djarvik wrote:Well, Gulbis got him figured out 8) :lol:


you do know tennis is not an exact science
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Postby Vieira151 » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:04

djarvik wrote:Well, Gulbis got him figured out 8) :lol:


You mean that time he lost a set to him in 13 mins? Yeah, definitely figured out.

EDIT: Wait, you talking of Del Potro or Simon? :lol:
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Postby Elargento » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:26

Vieira151 wrote:
djarvik wrote:Well, Gulbis got him figured out 8) :lol:


You mean that time he lost a set to him in 13 mins? Yeah, definitely figured out.

EDIT: Wait, you talking of Del Potro or Simon? :lol:


delpo. again i didn't see the match but i don't think gulbis can figure anything out, besides top notch hookars.
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Postby Vieira151 » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:39

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Postby djarvik » Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:39

....then I say Gulbis figured out everything! Charlie, what do you say?
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