US Open

[Samael]

I don't know the small details in the rules.. but how was Djokovic allowed to take medical time out at 1-0.... Worse of all, it was Nadal to serve! I don't like that at all, it's tactical.

Sure, he body was falling to pieces, but then he would have taken medical at 0-0 4th set?

Thanks for the translation in what Rafa said Moralspain. Must be hard to concentrate after that point... Nevertheless, Rafa, a true sportsman that he is will be the first to admit he lost to a better player on the day.

Hope Rafa now figures out a better way to face Djokovic, cos that 3rd set, he had him with the aggressive style of play

Tactical?: yes
Affected Rafa? yes
Illegal?: No, i don't think so.

about the translation i forgot something:

"Cuando vas ganado no te duele, hay que tener modales, pero me da igual, yo sigo aquí luchando", more or less what i posted yesterday, he said this in loud, and clearly speaking to Novak.

"When you're winning you don't have pain, you have to have good "manners"!, but i don't care, i'm still here, fighting"


anyway Djokovic was better yesterday, tennis is that simple, 3 sets to 1, end of story. truth is that Nadal was a bit close this time, and played better than him the 3rd, it's a good sign.

He did play better than Djokovic in the third set, but OMG he did have to play his very best to win a set from that man... That's outrageous!!! If Nadal had to be at 200% to win a single set from Nole, he must be at 400% to win a 3/5 match... Just look at the 4th set. Nadal was exausted and Nole fresh...

[Moralspain]

I don't know the small details in the rules.. but how was Djokovic allowed to take medical time out at 1-0.... Worse of all, it was Nadal to serve! I don't like that at all, it's tactical.

Sure, he body was falling to pieces, but then he would have taken medical at 0-0 4th set?

Thanks for the translation in what Rafa said Moralspain. Must be hard to concentrate after that point... Nevertheless, Rafa, a true sportsman that he is will be the first to admit he lost to a better player on the day.

Hope Rafa now figures out a better way to face Djokovic, cos that 3rd set, he had him with the aggressive style of play

Tactical?: yes
Affected Rafa? yes
Illegal?: No, i don't think so.

about the translation i forgot something:

"Cuando vas ganado no te duele, hay que tener modales, pero me da igual, yo sigo aquí luchando", more or less what i posted yesterday, he said this in loud, and clearly speaking to Novak.

"When you're winning you don't have pain, you have to have good "manners"!, but i don't care, i'm still here, fighting"


anyway Djokovic was better yesterday, tennis is that simple, 3 sets to 1, end of story. truth is that Nadal was a bit close this time, and played better than him the 3rd, it's a good sign.

He did play better than Djokovic in the third set, but OMG he did have to play his very best to win a set from that man... That's outrageous!!! If Nadal had to be at 200% to win a single set from Nole, he must be at 400% to win a 3/5 match... Just look at the 4th set. Nadal was exausted and Nole fresh...

i agree 100%, better said i agree 200% , nah you're right, it's true he can't played that level during 5 sets.
Novak, another impressive thing, is, now, physically better than Rafa, well better than anyone.

[djarvik]

Well, if we say that 100% is the maximum that could actually be......then it is safe to say that Rafa never played Djoker at 100% before 3rd set yesterday


...here, and excuse for Rafa. If he plays at 100% (as he did in 3rd set) Nole will lose!

[Moralspain]

for those guys who couldn't see it, this is what Rafa had to do yesterday to win the 3rd set to Novak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wI3dxO05FQ


like this one there were many more, and from both players

[VillaJ100]

Wish he would flatten his forehand just a bit more. And i hear last year he changed his serve grip which gave him a great serve.... only to then change back. WHY!?!

[Moralspain]

i guess, it's not that simple for him to get 130 mph serves, he needs to be really focus, it's not natural for him, and i do believe yesterday he had to deal with more important issues, i mean if you're having a super year, playing your best tennis, having your best year (2010) you can be focus on your serve and changing the grip and all that stuff but if you're not your playing that great maybe it's not the best time to do that.
That's my opinion, because it's true he showed last year he can serve better than he did yesterday.

[jayl0ve]

I think playing with his non-dominant hand affects his serving, and always will to a certain extent.

He used to have an extremely crappy, awkward serve. He now has a very good serve but he'll never have an 'excellent' serve no matter how hard he works on it, IMO.

[Moralspain]

I think playing with his non-dominant hand affects his serving, and always will to a certain extent.

He used to have an extremely crappy, awkward serve. He now has a very good serve but he'll never have an 'excellent' serve no matter how hard he works on it, IMO.

you hit the nail on the head, experts have the same opinion

[Vieira151]

Since it was a Fed less final , i didn't watch it especially because Roger HAD TO BE there in final.
1-he had the chance, not chance actually, HE HAD the match with 2 MPs
2-I wanted to see a Fed vs Nadal match in USO
so i was annoyed enough not to watch it, last 3 years of USO were really bad for me.
saw the highlight and stuff, the match was great, obviously the reviews shows that as well, but the best tennis in recent history for ME, is Federer vs Nadal Rome 2006 or Wimbledon finals.
Djokovic vs Nadal just get physical t an unblievable level, but Fed vs Nadal is in another class generally.

Hate to bring it to you, but Federer is getting old.

Not to sound like a dick, but you need to stop watching through your rose coloured glasses. Federer is no longer the best, and if you want aren't going to watch finals because he isn't in them then you may as well stop watching now. Federer isn't the be all and end all of tennis. Tennis evolves and if you want to enjoy it, stop placing all these ridiculous expectations on an aging man, and watch the new generation play some ridiculous tennis.

And plus, I agree one thing about Fed - we will never see anyone play it so beautifully, and this is a shame as we have been spoiled with his playing. But again, take off your rose tinted glasses and appreciate and enjoy some of the new, dominating players.

Saying that, I really enjoy watching Federer, but it is difficult now. And I have to agree about one thing, yesterday was not the best match ever, though it had some of the best things ever - the best rallies, and the best defence. If I want to watch some prime attacking, I'll go watch some Federer vs Safin.

[safe_as_milk_]

Didn't get a chance to post about that incredible final... my only criticism of it was that it was extremely un-sim

I'm fairly neutral towards the top three, it's always a pleasure to watch any of them play, and I generally don't mind who wins, as long as it isn't in straight sets! I am glad though that Djokovic came through so strongly in the final since I don't know what more he could possibly do to make fed or nadal diehards accept just how insanely good he is these days. I know better than to get into any debate over who history will deem to be the greatest, but all I'll say is that to have to year he's had on Rafa and Roger's watches tells you all you need to know about the guy...

[jayl0ve]

I'm a huge Federer fan but even I can't deny that Djokovic is on some Next Level s**t right now. His groundstrokes are truly insane. He's putting the ball right in the middle of the strings and pretty much catching it and throwing it wherever the hell he wants, and it's going in like 95 percent of the time.

[emate007]

for those guys who couldn't see it, this is what Rafa had to do yesterday to win the 3rd set to Novak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wI3dxO05FQ


like this one there were many more, and from both players

I remember this point! Kind of a turning point in the set, and I was totally rooting for Nadal, hoping he'd play the same way from then on. But it wasn't long before the loopy topspin shots were back. And being punished.

Backhand winner was what he should have been doing the whole match. And I know, easier said than done... But clearly defending well doesn't matter against Novak these days. To beat him means to keep him 3 meters behind the baseline every point, finish at net. He ruins everybody in baseline exchanges.

[Moralspain]

US Open - Serena outburst investigated, she's still under probation from last time and could face another fine or suspension.... maybe both lol...

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/12092011/ ... gated.html

haven't seen it yet

Code violation for this? I expressed myself, we're in America last time I checked. Don't look at me. Don't look my way."

sorry but that's funny as hell

[Andymachine]

Since it was a Fed less final , i didn't watch it especially because Roger HAD TO BE there in final.
1-he had the chance, not chance actually, HE HAD the match with 2 MPs
2-I wanted to see a Fed vs Nadal match in USO
so i was annoyed enough not to watch it, last 3 years of USO were really bad for me.
saw the highlight and stuff, the match was great, obviously the reviews shows that as well, but the best tennis in recent history for ME, is Federer vs Nadal Rome 2006 or Wimbledon finals.
Djokovic vs Nadal just get physical t an unblievable level, but Fed vs Nadal is in another class generally.

Hate to bring it to you, but Federer is getting old.

Not to sound like a dick, but you need to stop watching through your rose coloured glasses. Federer is no longer the best, and if you want aren't going to watch finals because he isn't in them then you may as well stop watching now. Federer isn't the be all and end all of tennis. Tennis evolves and if you want to enjoy it, stop placing all these ridiculous expectations on an aging man, and watch the new generation play some ridiculous tennis.

And plus, I agree one thing about Fed - we will never see anyone play it so beautifully, and this is a shame as we have been spoiled with his playing. But again, take off your rose tinted glasses and appreciate and enjoy some of the new, dominating players.

Saying that, I really enjoy watching Federer, but it is difficult now. And I have to agree about one thing, yesterday was not the best match ever, though it had some of the best things ever - the best rallies, and the best defence. If I want to watch some prime attacking, I'll go watch some Federer vs Safin.

Not so sure Viera , yes he may be old but he can still easily win another slam , look at Steffi Graf when she was up against the Williams Sisters , Davenport , Capriati and Seles , she was beating them all and she was 30 , talent is talent and Federer is naturally gifted , but i see your point too , but id never count Federer out of anything ...yet

[Andymachine]

p.s on the mens side , the only person that can touch Djokovic is Federer , and there arent many players coming thru on both mens and womens sides atm, people are never satisfied , they hate it when one player is dominating , then they get annoyed with it and find faults , and excuses why they are dominating , but yet when one does come thru they are like " oh i miss this player , that an the next thing " Fickle doesnt even cover it