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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby Corbon » Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:29

That one return Stan hit on BP was in but he didn't challenge. Would've been serving for match which is of course no guarantee against Nole but still.

Typical top 20 fold against one of the top guys.
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby emate007 » Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:17

Corbon wrote:That one return Stan hit on BP was in but he didn't challenge. Would've been serving for match which is of course no guarantee against Nole but still.

Typical top 20 fold against one of the top guys.


This kind of thing really annoys me. There's no reason the outcome of the match should be altered so drastically because of a bad call. And a REALLY bad call by the chair umpire who emphatically stated it was out when Wawrinka asked.
I think they should implement some sort of automatic review for huge points (break points, set points, etc) similar to the NFL where all scoring plays are reviewed. Unacceptable system, Stan got robbed this time.
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby ICEMAN_9588 » Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:21

Corbon wrote:Stan is going to lose, that's a fact.


I tought the same thing after Djokovic broke back in second set for 4-5.
I mean, that one was the "episode" that changes the match. Or better, the episode that brings back the Champion.

But I also tought Wawrinka would have lost easily, without any resistance. But Stan fought hard until the end, so credits to him, I didn't expect a match like this.
Pity I couldn't see the best part of it, cause I had to go out just after 61 5-4 in the second set :(
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby Vieira151 » Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:37

emate007 wrote:
Corbon wrote:That one return Stan hit on BP was in but he didn't challenge. Would've been serving for match which is of course no guarantee against Nole but still.

Typical top 20 fold against one of the top guys.


This kind of thing really annoys me. There's no reason the outcome of the match should be altered so drastically because of a bad call. And a REALLY bad call by the chair umpire who emphatically stated it was out when Wawrinka asked.
I think they should implement some sort of automatic review for huge points (break points, set points, etc) similar to the NFL where all scoring plays are reviewed. Unacceptable system, Stan got robbed this time.


To be fair, it is usually always best to leave a challenge or two for the big points. Then you don't have to worry about this problem.
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby emate007 » Mon, 21 Jan 2013 02:23

If the ball is in, it shouldn't be called out. I don't think there's any way to argue against that. Saying he mismanaged his challenges is fine, but you're thinking within the confines of a broken system.
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby Corbon » Mon, 21 Jan 2013 03:50

That's why there are challenges because chair umpires have ****ed up many times before.
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby emate007 » Mon, 21 Jan 2013 06:59

Well yeah, I get that. And the review system is definitely a lot better than nothing. I just think the sport should strive for 100% accuracy all the time, not just when a player feels like it. I mentioned American football earlier, Europeans probably aren't familiar with the system I referenced, but it works like this:
Each team has 2 challenges per half, and similar to tennis it's up them to decide how and when to use them. And like tennis they keep the challenge if a call is overturned/changed. However, in recent years they've tweaked it so that every scoring play is automatically reviewed. I think they should do something similar in tennis on especially important points. Leave the system largely as it is, but not leave the really big calls up to the players. Review every break/set point no matter what if it's even close to questionable.
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby Ugadalou » Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:04

Well maybe Wawrinka learned his lesson tonight the hard way.Players have to stop asking the umpire's opinion.It's their challenge,their call.The umpire is there to overrule and make a DECISION, not be a hawkeye consultant.

Take for example guys like Roger or Roddick.When they think it's worth it they challenge instantly-which is on the rules by the way.No chit-chat with the decorative guy on the tall chair.

What terrible line calls this year in Melbourne though.So many mistakes, sometimes on the easiest of balls too.And it's been this way from the start, doesn't seem to get better.Don't they have some kind of evaluation filtering system?
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby Corbon » Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:40

Correct challenges are 31% for men and 27,8% for women, actually a bit lower than last year but it really should be at least 10% lower overall. And this doesn't include wrong calls when the player is out of challenges.
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby ICEMAN_9588 » Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:15

Almagro just wasted the chance of a lifetime...
Was leading 64 64 5-4 and served for the match against Ferrer....two breaks in a row, 7-5.
Another lead in the 4th set, 64 64 57 5-4 and another time, serving for the match....break.
Then again, 64 64 57 6-5, and service...break, after saving like 5 break points.

No match points.

In the tie break, on 3-3, Almagro made a wrong movement (or at least, it seemed so) and showed a pain in the groin, but the "momentum" was just passed away. Ferrer won the tie break 7-4, and during the break between 4th and 5th set, Almagro called the physioterapist and got a massage in the left leg.

But in 5th set he was playing static, didn't moving at all. He lasted until 2-2, then Ferrer finally toke the decisive lead and won 62. 15 total breaks, in the 4th set it was almost like a women's match...
Nico should beat himself for days...
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby Corbon » Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:20

Remember when he had 5 match points against Nadal in Paris and couldn't close it out? Or 3 match points against Ferrer in Madrid last year? Guy is a mega choker against the top guys.
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby ICEMAN_9588 » Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:02

That's what happens when you're not used to win...
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby Corbon » Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:18

Also nice..."recovery" from Wawrinka for Nole.
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby Corbon » Wed, 23 Jan 2013 06:11

lol Dramarena is out vs Sloane. Youngster should win it all.
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Re: Australian Open 2013

Postby ICEMAN_9588 » Wed, 23 Jan 2013 10:18

She had a lower back injury, as far as I know.
Credits to Sloane, anyway.
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