Djokovic on drugs?

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Is Djokovic taking drugs to enhance his performances on corut?

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Postby jayl0ve » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:40

I was gonna comment on that too :)

I've seen Djokovic hit some absurd shots this year. Some FH angles that I really am not sure I've ever seen Federer hit.
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Postby VillaJ100 » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:42

The funniest thing would be if fed had taken one of those MP's all this would be irrelevant haha.
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Postby Moralspain » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:45

oh man life is full of IFs!!, my own life is full of "If i .... :lol:
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Postby farshad » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:50

djarvik wrote:
farshad wrote:it feels good! :lol:
btw...why do you say Djokovic is better? i have never been in a tennis court cause of my stupid situation , i was never in a country that had a big tournament, but i've seen Roger on his prime, almost every match and now its Djokovic's prime, but IMO, Djokovic is not playing as good as Fed, i mean Fed was play station stuff, he was doing stuff out of this world, making shots that doesn't exist in tennis, something special if you know what i mean, but what djokovic does is incredible but i dont see something very unique that seperate him from the others , except for his confidence, and some weird powerful shots which again i believe comes form confidence and great physicall body.


I strongly disagree, Djokovic is way more "PlayStation style". :lol: Fed was more of an offensive player and rarely hit defensive shot winners, or displayed a great defense. He didn't have to most times, but I also think his defense is just not as good as say guys like Djoker, Murray, Nadal.....or even Ferrer. Fed preferred to shank backhands and miss-hit forehands to defending.

Djokovic at the moment is literally the best in both areas. He can defend like no one else and he can attack like no one else. Fed could place 1-2-3 shots near the lines before shanking something or getting a winner or error out of the opponent. Djokovic can hit 5-6 quality shots in a raw....and start hitting the first quality shot from a defensive position. Fed goes all-or-nothing from defensive position.

Fed gets major style points, no doubt....but Djokovic winning game is simply better.

.....I can keep going.

I agree with that, no doubt! he was never as good as Nadal,Murray or Djokovic , i remember how many times instead of a good defensive shot , he was going for an offensive winner and ruining the point but my point about Play Station was that the way he was executing points or making some shots that you dont see everyday, im not talking about who is more complete cause if you take it that way, Novak is probably more complete nowdays cause Fed's backhand is always moody, one day is a weapon for him , one day is a disaster, his return as well..etc, novak is more stable and focused but how Federer was winning points was much more beautiful and out of this world stuff compared to Novak's shot. he hit some crazy stuff as well but i dont see them as good and as magical.
let me ay it simple, Federer was winning elegant and way more stylish than Novak. and i simply dont find Fed's magic shots on Novak's game.
when you were watching Fed, it was clear the guy is not like the other, he has something more than the others but i ( personally) dont feel that on Djokovic's game. time will show! we should see how he performs when he can't play as physicall as now.
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Postby Samael » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:55

An other thing Nadal must improve is his SERVE. I cant recall any of his matches when he s lost his serve 11 times... Djokovic was making fun of Nadal's serve... Also, he needs to find a way to hit some of his ultra powerful forehands, the kind of shots he showed us he can hit in the match against Del Potro at Wimbledon. I mean the flatter forehands that when he hits you can hear that uber sound . I ve never seen anyone hitting so hard as Nadal as he hit those couple of fhs against Del Potro. Also, the short angles top spin fhs he uses are ineficient against Nole, cos the Serb cuts the angles and gets the ball so early that puts Nadal immediately into a hopeless defensive stance...
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Postby fedfan » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:55

Considering we talk so much about the strength in depth, it is a bit surprising we have seen Federer, Nadal and now Djokovic have seasons where they completely dominate and win 3 slams in the same year.
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:12

I actually think the tour IS deep, and really competitive, IF you take away these three super-humans. They really are just that.

If there was only one of them playing at one time - that one would have had upwards of 20 Grand Slams.

Sorry Murray, you would have 18 Finals appearances......with 1 set won.
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Postby Vieira151 » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:39

KOELLERER wrote:An other thing Nadal must improve is his SERVE. I cant recall any of his matches when he s lost his serve 11 times... Djokovic was making fun of Nadal's serve... Also, he needs to find a way to hit some of his ultra powerful forehands, the kind of shots he showed us he can hit in the match against Del Potro at Wimbledon. I mean the flatter forehands that when he hits you can hear that uber sound . I ve never seen anyone hitting so hard as Nadal as he hit those couple of fhs against Del Potro. Also, the short angles top spin fhs he uses are ineficient against Nole, cos the Serb cuts the angles and gets the ball so early that puts Nadal immediately into a hopeless defensive stance...


You mean apart from Del Potro himself? :lol:
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:42

farshad wrote:
djarvik wrote:
farshad wrote:it feels good! :lol:
btw...why do you say Djokovic is better? i have never been in a tennis court cause of my stupid situation , i was never in a country that had a big tournament, but i've seen Roger on his prime, almost every match and now its Djokovic's prime, but IMO, Djokovic is not playing as good as Fed, i mean Fed was play station stuff, he was doing stuff out of this world, making shots that doesn't exist in tennis, something special if you know what i mean, but what djokovic does is incredible but i dont see something very unique that seperate him from the others , except for his confidence, and some weird powerful shots which again i believe comes form confidence and great physicall body.


I strongly disagree, Djokovic is way more "PlayStation style". :lol: Fed was more of an offensive player and rarely hit defensive shot winners, or displayed a great defense. He didn't have to most times, but I also think his defense is just not as good as say guys like Djoker, Murray, Nadal.....or even Ferrer. Fed preferred to shank backhands and miss-hit forehands to defending.

Djokovic at the moment is literally the best in both areas. He can defend like no one else and he can attack like no one else. Fed could place 1-2-3 shots near the lines before shanking something or getting a winner or error out of the opponent. Djokovic can hit 5-6 quality shots in a raw....and start hitting the first quality shot from a defensive position. Fed goes all-or-nothing from defensive position.

Fed gets major style points, no doubt....but Djokovic winning game is simply better.

.....I can keep going.

I agree with that, no doubt! he was never as good as Nadal,Murray or Djokovic , i remember how many times instead of a good defensive shot , he was going for an offensive winner and ruining the point but my point about Play Station was that the way he was executing points or making some shots that you dont see everyday, im not talking about who is more complete cause if you take it that way, Novak is probably more complete nowdays cause Fed's backhand is always moody, one day is a weapon for him , one day is a disaster, his return as well..etc, novak is more stable and focused but how Federer was winning points was much more beautiful and out of this world stuff compared to Novak's shot. he hit some crazy stuff as well but i dont see them as good and as magical.
let me ay it simple, Federer was winning elegant and way more stylish than Novak. and i simply dont find Fed's magic shots on Novak's game.
when you were watching Fed, it was clear the guy is not like the other, he has something more than the others but i ( personally) dont feel that on Djokovic's game. time will show! we should see how he performs when he can't play as physicall as now.

im going to slightly disagree with first nadal,nole, and murray are counter-puncher by nature who's games are based on defense and consistency so of course their defense is better than fed however fed does have good defense particularly on his backhand side because of it's his weakness so he has to protect it,.

now his forehand is his strength so even if he is in an defensive position because of his confidence in that shot he often hits aggressive shots on that side.

as for the shanks his racket is not like everyone else's the smaller sweet spot gives him more precision but he has to time the ball well and hit the ball out of the middle or shanks occur especially if you factor in how much racquet-head speed he produces.

and when novak is tired or not confident his forehands breaks down. fed is more well rounded he can serve and volley or used to be able to do when the surfaces encouraged it that match against sampras it testament to that .he also has a better slice backhand and hits all the shots off both wings well novak doesn't have a good forehand drop shot how often if matches does you see him hit one.

now fed is an offensive player his game is based on attacking so consistency was the last ting he picked up hence why rafa and nole won slams at an earlier age than fed they already had it fed had to master it.
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Postby VillaJ100 » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:45

It would actually be really interesting to see a grand slam (or even a masters?) where by some fluke rafa, fed and joko were all injured, (maybe murray too, he still above the pack). It would be good to see the 'best of the rest'.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:51

fedfan wrote:Considering we talk so much about the strength in depth, it is a bit surprising we have seen Federer, Nadal and now Djokovic have seasons where they completely dominate and win 3 slams in the same year.

when the surfaces currently played ona re all the same and don't required specific skill sets this is what will happen. there use to be a time when you needed specialist skills to win on each surface now you don't.

agassi does not get enough credit for mastering the surfacesin their original state as he did. Ivan Lendl's scarifice of his clay court season to perfect his grass game was a waste.

hence why someone like novak is now referred to as an 'well rounded' player as you dont need to volley well to a top player anymore sure he can hit volleys but he doesn't hit them well under pressure
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:53

VillaJ100 wrote:It would actually be really interesting to see a grand slam (or even a masters?) where by some fluke rafa, fed and joko were all injured, (maybe murray too, he still above the pack). It would be good to see the 'best of the rest'.
unless surfaces start to test all parts of their games that is not going to happen
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:07

VillaJ100 wrote:It would actually be really interesting to see a grand slam (or even a masters?) where by some fluke rafa, fed and joko were all injured, (maybe murray too, he still above the pack). It would be good to see the 'best of the rest'.



Spot on! I would pay to watch that tournament :shock:
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Postby VillaJ100 » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:18

Wow think of the possibilities... tsonga, ferrer, soderling, berdych, monfils, fish, del potro... wow nearly anyone ranked from 5-20 could be a potential winner
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Postby farshad » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:34

VillaJ100 wrote:It would actually be really interesting to see a grand slam (or even a masters?) where by some fluke rafa, fed and joko were all injured, (maybe murray too, he still above the pack). It would be good to see the 'best of the rest'.

You wont find best of the rest cause each time the winner will be different without Fed,Nadal , Djokovic and probably Murray.
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