Olympics 2012 - Tennis

[TomBs]

Until he does, there is all reason to believe he never will, for me personally.

Now of course it's just too easy to only believe someone can win a slam when he has just won one


And physically... That counts for every player. Murray doesn't play any doubles at slams I think? Here he played 2 mixed doubles matches on saturday.

But yes, the difference in opinion is about the importance of the Olympics. Now if neither is willing to change their opinion, than discussing it is pretty pointless. If people have there opinion, but are willing to change it due to arguments given by people with other opinions, then it's fun

But I believe we won't really see any new arguments entering the stage Although we could discuss about that as well...


Oh wait, about his playing style. He is indeed playing more aggressive. Wouldn't that lead to quicker matches for him? Shorter rallies, not giving the opponent the chance to get into the match and such..

[djarvik]

Yep. Opinions, opinions....

Like I said, I do enjoy a great deal more his current style of play, but I need to see if he will stick to it after losing a first set or two. When things go well it's easy to stay aggressive.

I know it's easy to say this (him not winnig major), but the fact is, this comes with a history. I am not saying this about a youngster etc... I am saying it about a player who is known for NOT wining majors while being in the finals and being good enough to do it. So as far as him concerned, until he wins one, I will be waiting for him to fail, after all, that is what he did so far, a few times

[TomBs]

Ah, but then history also tells it that there is no man in history who didn't win a slam after losing at least 4 finals Most famously Ivan Lendl (and maybe the only one really)

Or that there is no man who has lost 4 or more finals without winning at least one.

History history history, you can use history to support anything really...


We'll see where it goes with Murray, only after his career we can say if he's won a slam or not. Good thing is that he indeed is more fun to watch now

[Corbon]

I'm pretty sure Murray would've traded his gold medal for the pineapple cup but him being British makes this a specialty. I don't think the Olympics rank near or above a Slam (which is evident if you look at past winners in singles and doubles) but it definitely ranks above Masters tournaments. And it needs to be taken into perspective. Would Federer trade his most recent Wimbledon victory which made him the longest running No. 1 and equalling Sampras' 7 wins for a singles gold medal? Probably not. He already has a gold medal in doubles (only) but a singles gold seems completely out of reach now. But would he trade any other of his 17 Grand Slam victories? I think yes.

He will definitely have a good 2013 (good=winning one slam and staying in the Top 3) if he remains injury-free and his chances to win a major next year are infinitely higher than winning gold in Rio. So these tournaments can't really be compared but the Olympics have definitely become a legit big tournament, in any case bigger than a tournament like the Rogers Cup

[Corbon]

Murray just pulled out of Rogers Cup with a knee injury, giving Raonic a walkover.

[Cro Morgan]

I don't think the Olympics rank near or above a Slam (which is evident if you look at past winners in singles and doubles) but it definitely ranks above Masters tournaments.

I disagree - think Masters are much more important.

With regard to tennis, the Olympics are a novelty event. Once every four years doesn't make it more prestigious, just makes it more of a crap shoot. Hell, I don't think the players even care that much.

[SlicerITST]

I don't think the Olympics rank near or above a Slam (which is evident if you look at past winners in singles and doubles) but it definitely ranks above Masters tournaments.

I disagree - think Masters are much more important.

With regard to tennis, the Olympics are a novelty event. Once every four years doesn't make it more prestigious, just makes it more of a crap shoot. Hell, I don't think the players even care that much.

Weren't you the one that suggested to make the Davis Cup a 4 year only event to make it more prestigious to enter?

[Corbon]

The only things more important in a Masters are the prize money and a bunch of tour points. When you compare prestige, there's no comparison.

[Cro Morgan]

Weren't you the one that suggested to make the Davis Cup a 4 year only event to make it more prestigious to enter?

Indeed, but that was "Option B."

Option A: Trash the bullshit, dumbass event.

The only things more important in a Masters are the prize money and a bunch of tour points. When you compare prestige, there's no comparison.

Not true. Actually, you can deep-six tennis at the Olympics as well. Overrated and boring.

Side note: How important can the Olympics possibly be if Murray won a Gold medal? Exactly.

[Coolhand Texas]

Weren't you the one that suggested to make the Davis Cup a 4 year only event to make it more prestigious to enter?

Indeed, but that was "Option B."

Option A: Trash the bullshit, dumbass event.

The only things more important in a Masters are the prize money and a bunch of tour points. When you compare prestige, there's no comparison.

Not true. Actually, you can deep-six tennis at the Olympics as well. Overrated and boring.

Side note: How important can the Olympics possibly be if Murray won a Gold medal? Exactly.

[Corbon]

Side note: How important can the Olympics possibly be if Murray won a Gold medal? Exactly.

How important can Masters tournaments be if the same guy won 8 of them so far?

OWNED

[Corbon]

BTW Nadal has also pulled out of Cinci. Just one of four Spanish players.

[Moralspain]

[Cro Morgan]

Side note: How important can the Olympics possibly be if Murray won a Gold medal? Exactly.

How important can Masters tournaments be if the same guy won 8 of them so far?

OWNED

Owned, not owned, either way, Olympic tennis is overrated and boring.

[Ali-Iqb93]

Olympics is itself boring in my opinion. I would rather prefer FIFA world cup or cricket world cup.