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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:54

Delpotro murray federer is the new triangle now.
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Postby Corbon » Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:56

There are 4 majors every year, plenty of chances for him to win something, he's still young.

As for Federer, this was his last realistic chance to win the singles gold medal, that title will be forever out of reach now.
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Sun, 05 Aug 2012 17:02

Have to feel good for Murray winning in front of the home crowd. Fed just had no magic today
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Sun, 05 Aug 2012 17:03

I'm pretty sure Murray will win a slam. Federer is growing old. Nadal always has injuries issues. Djokovic gets shaky sometimes. Del potro and Murray can win majors for sure
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Sun, 05 Aug 2012 17:07

Still think fed has a great shot at us open. Just needs a little rest
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Postby Moralspain » Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:17

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Postby Coolhand Texas » Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:49

murray having a pretty good day I would say. Just took silver in mixed doubles. Will have a huge confidence boost for rest of this season!!!

by the way does murray only get 750 points for the gold medal in singles????

If so thats a scam should at least be like a masters
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Postby Corbon » Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:46

They didn't use to get any points in earlier Olympics, if you ended up 4th, you'd go home with nothing, like a 1st round loser.

It's the Olympic spirit that counts!
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Postby VMoe86 » Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:47

Corbon wrote:It's the Olympic spirit that counts!

This, the Olympics should award no points for the ATP Ranking.
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Postby Corbon » Tue, 07 Aug 2012 23:46

In retrospect I actually liked Murray winning Gold, he basically proved all critics wrong. Makes the upcoming US Open all more exciting. 4 big tournaments being won by 4 different players so far. And with Delpo slowly creeping back into top shape, why not again after 2009?
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 08 Aug 2012 00:38

This really equals to less then winning a masters. So I think he proved nothing when it comes to majors. What changed?
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Postby Corbon » Wed, 08 Aug 2012 00:44

Now you're just going by ATP points and money*. An Olympic gold medal is worth much more than that.

*Each medal winner is receiving an unannounced amount of money from his/her national olympic commitee anyway.
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 08 Aug 2012 01:01

True, but draw wise and set wise this is equivalent to masters more then to slams. This is sure a great achievement, but in my eyes doesn't really make him any closer to winning slams. Maybe a bit more confident, but remember, he will need to win 2 five setters against Rafael/Nole/Roger and win a few more before that. Different story.
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Postby TomBs » Wed, 08 Aug 2012 01:49

I don't think that will be a problem physically for him. He has just beaten Nole and Roger. Nole in best-of-3 yes, but he was also playing mixed doubles. Physically Andy is in excellent shape.

The problem was always more mentally, and draw wise and set wise this might be closer to a master, but mentally it's way closer to a slam. Maybe even tougher. For the Olympics you get 1 shot in 4 years, for slams 4 shots in 1 year. And at the Olympics the whole world is watching (and here in London especially everyone in Britain), at the slams just the tennis world (well ok, at Wimbledon again everyone in Britain). I'd say he finally got a huge win, and he will win slams in the future, and it might well be starting in the coming year.

As well in a slam he's likely to play his first two matches against relatively weak opponents, here he started against Wawrinka. The only 'walkover' was Nieminen really. Baghdatis, Almagro and Wawrinka are just the kind of players you get in 3rd-QF matches.

I don't see the extra set in all those matches make the huge difference you pretend it to be.
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 08 Aug 2012 01:59

Well, it just becomes a matter of opinion: is Olympics bigger then major? Bigger then masters? Somewhere in between?

Physically he maybe in good shape, but that extra set, potentiall two ads up in 128 player draw. A deeper then Olympics draw. That extra half a step can make a difference when combined with temporarily mental elapse.

Can Murray win a major? Yes.
Did he? No.

Until he does, there is all reason to believe he never will, for me personally.

Hope he proves me wrong, cause this current version of Mutant Software is way better and fun to watch. He now wins with aggression rather then patience.
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