Djokovic on drugs?

[VillaJ100]

A 30 year-old Federer almost (should have) beat Djokovic in the semifinals. A twenty-six year old Federer would have kicked his ass.

This.

[Andymachine]

Well if he is on drugs ( which i doubt) its not steroids thats for sure , have u seen how thin Djokovic is??

[SoundfSilence]

A 30 year-old Federer almost (should have) beat Djokovic in the semifinals. A twenty-six year old Federer would have kicked his ass.

This.

Get out a here LOL. Statements like that are ridiculous. Here is a fact:

A 26 year old Federer lost in straight sets to a 20 year old Djokovic, Australian Open 2008.

I think we all agree the Djokovic yesterday is much much better than the one in 2008 when he beat Fed in his 'prime'. I'm not saying Djokovic is better than Fed, just making a point you can't simply say a younger Federer would simply beat Djokovic of now.

[Moralspain]

Well if he is on drugs ( which i doubt) its not steroids thats for sure , have u seen how thin Djokovic is??

Yep he looks like a kenyan athelete, he's in good shape, yesterday he didn't even sweat while Nadal was sweating like if he was playing in the desert

[Moralspain]

A 30 year-old Federer almost (should have) beat Djokovic in the semifinals. A twenty-six year old Federer would have kicked his ass.

This.

Get out a here LOL. Statements like that are ridiculous. Here is a fact:

A 26 year old Federer lost in straight sets to a 20 year old Djokovic, Australian Open 2008.

I think we all agree the Djokovic yesterday is much much better than the one in 2008 when he beat Fed in his 'prime'. I'm not saying Djokovic is better than Fed, just making a point you can't simply say a younger Federer would simply beat Djokovic of now.

So true

[farshad]

A 30 year-old Federer almost (should have) beat Djokovic in the semifinals. A twenty-six year old Federer would have kicked his ass.

This.

Get out a here LOL. Statements like that are ridiculous. Here is a fact:

A 26 year old Federer lost in straight sets to a 20 year old Djokovic, Australian Open 2008.

I think we all agree the Djokovic yesterday is much much better than the one in 2008 when he beat Fed in his 'prime'. I'm not saying Djokovic is better than Fed, just making a point you can't simply say a younger Federer would simply beat Djokovic of now.

when they started playing in his prime, head to head was 6-0 for Roger, he still is winning most of their meetings! and in 2008 Federer wasn't at his prime, it was exactly when his downhill started and in 2008 he had a virus on his stomach and he was very slow on court without any prepration for AO so..dont even go for it.
Edit: but Novak had it in him that he is where he is now, defeating Federer or Nadal especially Federer on Grand Slam in 2008 when everyone was expecting him a GS title takes more than a very good player to defeat him even if he is injured.

[Moralspain]

Farshad why do you say "he is still winning their meetings"?, they've met 5 times this year, 4 wins Novak, just 1 Rog, maybe i didn't get what you tried to say

[Cro Morgan]

....you can't simply say a younger Federer would simply beat Djokovic of now.

I did.

[SoundfSilence]

when they started playing in his prime, head to head was 6-0 for Roger, he still is winning most of their meetings!

One can easily argue that Federer head to head was 6-0, because Djokovic was very young, and far from his prime

[farshad]

Farshad why do you say "he is still winning their meetings"?, they've met 5 times this year, 4 wins Novak, just 1 Rog, maybe i didn't get what you tried to say

No im not saying he is winning more or less in their meetings, i meant Fed still leads the head to head and is still the only one making such close matches and winning here and there when they meet , i mean you still cant be sure who wins, their matches were very close , even this year, except for Dubai final.

[farshad]

when they started playing in his prime, head to head was 6-0 for Roger, he still is winning most of their meetings!

One can easily argue that Federer head to head was 6-0, because Djokovic was very young, and far from his prime

well thats the point, that even if Fed is 30 , he still is playing very close matches against Novak and is able to win if he brings his best and ofc , wont lose Mps
i generally dont agree with comparing players of differenet eras or their prime time cause it will never make sense, but you said he won in 2008, which was really not the case. he won but not against a fresh , and in prime time Roger.

[djarvik]

I have seen both, in prime, court side.

Djokovic now is better then Federer was in his prime. No question in my mind.

....and I absolutely hate Djokovic and love Federer.


As for him being on drugs, maybe, not physical performance enhancers, rather mental. He keeps hitting shot after shot in pressure situation and not only keeping in the court, but making winners. Something Fed used to do.

[farshad]

I have seen both, in prime, court side.

Djokovic now is better then Federer was in his prime. No question in my mind.

....and I absolutely hate Djokovic and love Federer.


As for him being on drugs, maybe, not physical performance enhancers, rather mental. He keeps hitting shot after shot in pressure situation and not only keeping in the court, but making winners. Something Fed used to do.

it feels good!
btw...why do you say Djokovic is better? i have never been in a tennis court cause of my stupid situation , i was never in a country that had a big tournament, but i've seen Roger on his prime, almost every match and now its Djokovic's prime, but IMO, Djokovic is not playing as good as Fed, i mean Fed was play station stuff, he was doing stuff out of this world, making shots that doesn't exist in tennis, something special if you know what i mean, but what djokovic does is incredible but i dont see something very unique that seperate him from the others , except for his confidence, and some weird powerful shots which again i believe comes form confidence and great physicall body.

[Samael]

We can compare Fed and Djokovic. Djokovic's backhand is definitely better than Federer. Djokovic's movement on court is definitely better. Djokovic's forehand is not better than Federer's, but not worse either. They both hit it fast and accurate. I'd say they are equal regarding the fh. What could Novak improve is his volley. Fed has a slight advantage at the net, but this doesn't matter too much since Djokovic's passing shots are better than Federer could have ever hit and besides playing at the net is a rarity these days. The only area where Fed has a bigger advantage is the serve, but like the volleys, it doesn't count that much either since Djokovic's returns are way-way better than Federer's. Like Djarvik said, it s the mental strength that makes the difference. And perhaps some drugs...

not only between these 2, mental strength makes the difference between the top 5 and the rest in my opinion.
Soderling, for example, has great serve, great forehand, great backhand but......, and like Soderling many others, slightly difference in terms of SKILLS between the top 50 players.

[djarvik]

it feels good!
btw...why do you say Djokovic is better? i have never been in a tennis court cause of my stupid situation , i was never in a country that had a big tournament, but i've seen Roger on his prime, almost every match and now its Djokovic's prime, but IMO, Djokovic is not playing as good as Fed, i mean Fed was play station stuff, he was doing stuff out of this world, making shots that doesn't exist in tennis, something special if you know what i mean, but what djokovic does is incredible but i dont see something very unique that seperate him from the others , except for his confidence, and some weird powerful shots which again i believe comes form confidence and great physicall body.

I strongly disagree, Djokovic is way more "PlayStation style". Fed was more of an offensive player and rarely hit defensive shot winners, or displayed a great defense. He didn't have to most times, but I also think his defense is just not as good as say guys like Djoker, Murray, Nadal.....or even Ferrer. Fed preferred to shank backhands and miss-hit forehands to defending.

Djokovic at the moment is literally the best in both areas. He can defend like no one else and he can attack like no one else. Fed could place 1-2-3 shots near the lines before shanking something or getting a winner or error out of the opponent. Djokovic can hit 5-6 quality shots in a raw....and start hitting the first quality shot from a defensive position. Fed goes all-or-nothing from defensive position.

Fed gets major style points, no doubt....but Djokovic winning game is simply better.

.....I can keep going.