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Does the WTA need the Williams Sisters?

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Postby Chederer » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:23

SlicerITST wrote:
Chederer wrote:can anyone say...steroids? i have the same suspicion about sharapova...she took a long leave of absence and is nothing like she was before(shoulder injury too)serena and venus both take long periods of absence. when injured like this is the WTA able to test for steroids?


Oh, they are able to. If it is anything like in cycling or track&field then they can check you anywhere, anytime.

Weirdest story i heard was about a cyclist who went on a training trip in some forsaken mountain range. He slept in a log cabin in the middle of nowhere only to be woken up at 5 in the morning for an out of competition check-up.


yea? well thats very interesting....so, saying that the williams sisters are so dominant and probably boost ticket sales on the womens tour; do you think the WTA would ignore the positive tests? its unreal how they both have about 20 times more power than any other female on tour...and they dont even have to practice?
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:28

SlicerITST wrote:
Chederer wrote:can anyone say...steroids? i have the same suspicion about sharapova...she took a long leave of absence and is nothing like she was before(shoulder injury too)serena and venus both take long periods of absence. when injured like this is the WTA able to test for steroids?
they do have knee problems but anything is possible look at Lashawn Merrit 400M Olympic champion was caught with peds last year so i believe anyone can be a ped user even my fav player fed could be but his game does need a phyiscal boost though so rafa fans dont get upset when peeps throw rafa on peds out cos it is a possibilty due to h nature of his game.

Oh, they are able to. If it is anything like in cycling or track&field then they can check you anywhere, anytime.

Weirdest story i heard was about a cyclist who went on a training trip in some forsaken mountain range. He slept in a log cabin in the middle of nowhere only to be woken up at 5 in the morning for an out of competition check-up.
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Postby Mack2300 » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:29

Whatever about Serena, Venus is a class act and very much respected. Don't think she gets enough credit for how articulate and smart she is.
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Postby PerfectAce » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:32

supinesmokey13 wrote:
PerfectAce wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
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jayl0ve wrote:I have nothing against what I've seen of Venus' personality, she seems like a nice enough girl.....Serena is a raging bitch from hell, however


True, true...
say what you like about her personality but she has been a dominant champ a leader for the tour in terms f what you need to be the best player, to be the undisputed no 1 player in the world and 29 or number 1 sereena goes out on court with the ability and mental fortititude to say " Im better than you" look at her an injured foot and blood clot couldnt keep her away yet henin because an elbow injury and loss of her aura against sveta and slam winner quit. She goes in to eastbourne and wimbledon knowing despite her ranking no one is better than her. i dnt think there is anyone in that top 10 that has a winning record.against her especially.the top 4-7.


No problem, I still prefer Henin... the game and the attitude.
henin's game was fun to watch but attitude wasnt great im mean describe the hand moment at the french open was wrong .plus sereena has a better attitude to tennis. if henin was so determined to complete a career slam she would have forgoed her elbow problem if she was still playing she be top 4 on grass right up there with the willlams and Masha. But she isnt as tough as sereena and that is why ulitmately she retired. she does not have sereena determination and massive apepetite for success im mean she played great in the hopman cup whippin everyone but when sveta stepped up a AO she couldnt handle it .that is what makes fed great the willingness to compete and thrive in this competitive era he finds himself in. Henin saw clijsters win uso and thought it would be at easy to win slams forgetting that despite kims success there were still some.slam winners like sveta with the game to beat anyone tlmatched with the focus,will,desire,concentration that could beat her regardless of h2h as stylistically it is a fair matchup it was just justine had the.mental edge and once that.wasnt there she couldnt rasie her.game to beat an 'on her game' sevta should sereena lose at wimbledon it only make her more deteermined. She want that gold and is prepared to do the necessary something henin was not due to a relative lack of substance( I say relative cos afterall she is a 7 time slam winnerin her own right )something sereena has plenty of and it this and not the number of slams or the h2h that seperates themm


I´m not trying to discuss here who was the best. I´m just saying that I prefer Henin. I simply don´t like Serena´s way of being... herself. I do respect her as a champ that she is, with tons of GS, but I don´t have to like her just because of that. I really apreciate people who behave like civilized human being, a thing that she will never do...
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Postby fedfan » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:03

jayl0ve wrote:I have nothing against what I've seen of Venus' personality, she seems like a nice enough girl.....Serena is a raging bitch from hell, however


Venus has mellowed with age, in the early days she was just as bad if not worse than Serena.
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Postby JimmyMc1311 » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:21

I went down to Eastbourne on Monday and saw Venus win her first round match. What's funny is what happens in the grounds outside about 30 minutes later. She's walking with her ever present Dad and about 5 security men around her, yet no one was really paying them that much attention. There was a lot of un needed security there!
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Postby JimmyMc1311 » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:22

fedfan wrote:
jayl0ve wrote:I have nothing against what I've seen of Venus' personality, she seems like a nice enough girl.....Serena is a raging bitch from hell, however


Venus has mellowed with age, in the early days she was just as bad if not worse than Serena.


Henin had too much gamesmanship for me to really like her. What she did to Amelie during the final of their Aussie Open final was pretty much unforgiveable.
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Hingis

Postby lincolnshirelad » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:49

Henin was good but Hingis was/is my favorite player all of time!
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Re: Hingis

Postby fedfan » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:51

lincolnshirelad wrote:Henin was good but Hingis was/is my favorite player all of time!


Me too!
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Postby JimmyMc1311 » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:54

Mary Pierce! I used to always play Mary Pierce on Virtue Tennis 2! She was sooooo cooool
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:52

PerfectAce wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
PerfectAce wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
PerfectAce wrote:
jayl0ve wrote:I have nothing against what I've seen of Venus' personality, she seems like a nice enough girl.....Serena is a raging bitch from hell, however


True, true...
say what you like about her personality but she has been a dominant champ a leader for the tour in terms f what you need to be the best player, to be the undisputed no 1 player in the world and 29 or number 1 sereena goes out on court with the ability and mental fortititude to say " Im better than you" look at her an injured foot and blood clot couldnt keep her away yet henin because an elbow injury and loss of her aura against sveta and slam winner quit. She goes in to eastbourne and wimbledon knowing despite her ranking no one is better than her. i dnt think there is anyone in that top 10 that has a winning record.against her especially.the top 4-7.


No problem, I still prefer Henin... the game and the attitude.
henin's game was fun to watch but attitude wasnt great im mean describe the hand moment at the french open was wrong .plus sereena has a better attitude to tennis. if henin was so determined to complete a career slam she would have forgoed her elbow problem if she was still playing she be top 4 on grass right up there with the willlams and Masha. But she isnt as tough as sereena and that is why ulitmately she retired. she does not have sereena determination and massive apepetite for success im mean she played great in the hopman cup whippin everyone but when sveta stepped up a AO she couldnt handle it .that is what makes fed great the willingness to compete and thrive in this competitive era he finds himself in. Henin saw clijsters win uso and thought it would be at easy to win slams forgetting that despite kims success there were still some.slam winners like sveta with the game to beat anyone tlmatched with the focus,will,desire,concentration that could beat her regardless of h2h as stylistically it is a fair matchup it was just justine had the.mental edge and once that.wasnt there she couldnt rasie her.game to beat an 'on her game' sevta should sereena lose at wimbledon it only make her more deteermined. She want that gold and is prepared to do the necessary something henin was not due to a relative lack of substance( I say relative cos afterall she is a 7 time slam winnerin her own right )something sereena has plenty of and it this and not the number of slams or the h2h that seperates themm


I´m not trying to discuss here who was the best. I´m just saying that I prefer Henin. I simply don´t like Serena´s way of being... herself. I do respect her as a champ that she is, with tons of GS, but I don´t have to like her just because of that. I really apreciate people who behave like civilized human being, a thing that she will never do...
like someone mentioned henin was not a great sport the infamous hand incident the retirement against amellie mauresemo in the AO final does not make he a better person than sereena and calling the hand moment against sereena 'magical' is that being a good person taking a way amelie's chance to beat henin for her first slam by quitting is not greatsportmanship take rafa he could quit against ferrer instead he gave ferrer the honour of winning the match. soI have no problem with you liking justine just do say she is a better person cos she aint but she funny to watch just to much gamesmnship simply looking for an edge due her small size
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good taste

Postby lincolnshirelad » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:12

She was just SO clever on the court such a tactical player and awesome to watch wasnt she fedfan
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Postby jayl0ve » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:15

I literally cannot believe people still bring up the 'hand incident'...BTW that is still nowhere near some of the crap that Serena has pulled, like THREATENING TO KILL A LINESPERSON.

To me it doesn't matter how serious she was, she said it...she's a bitch
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:42

jayl0ve wrote:I literally cannot believe people still bring up the 'hand incident'...BTW that is still nowhere near some of the crap that Serena has pulled, like THREATENING TO KILL A LINESPERSON.

To me it doesn't matter how serious she was, she said it...she's a bitch
okay agreed that was wrong on so many levels but what you said is basically the pot calling the kettle black.
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Postby Al » Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:20

I think the Williams sisters have systematically ruined the womens game & turned it into a game of baseball.....their screaming during play & lack of finess annoys the living daylights out of me!

I caught a bit of Serena on tv playing today in Eastbourne....she was a disgrace....I'm not saying it's alright for the men to swear on court because that's a shameful example to kids also but in all the matches I've ever seen (& that's quite a few) today was the 1st time I ever heard a woman use the 'F' word on court.....pretty disgusting in my opinion & she should've been penalised for it too but wasn't!

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