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Postby coke4 » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:27

beltic caldy wrote:or....just had another (dirty rotten horrible BAAAAD me!) thought.....

you could drop sarah palin an email, and tell her Murray really really REALLY likes the healthcare reform bill......sorted?

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Postby jayl0ve » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:32

beltic caldy wrote:or....just had another (dirty rotten horrible BAAAAD me!) thought.....

you could drop sarah palin an email, and tell her Murray really really REALLY likes the healthcare reform bill......sorted?

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


I'm gonna be honest and say that I don't even undestand this :lol:

Don't give a s**t about politics....it's all a conspiracy anyways
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Postby djarvik » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:01

AUSSIE_FABS wrote:Beltic are you attempting to start political argument with americans, worst. idea. ever. You know they aren' restricted by facts, anyway don't think murray deserves own thread lol.

I think there has been less focus on him, which can only be a good thing for him.


I agree. Stupid Americans. How in the world are they still alive?! Disgrace.
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Postby beltic caldy » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:13

Cro Morgan wrote:
AUSSIE_FABS wrote:Beltic are you attempting to start political argument with americans, worst. idea. ever. You know they aren' restricted by facts...


Who is this "they" you speak of?



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Postby beltic caldy » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:20

awww...i started the thread just to say I was happy Murray had gone through.....and ultra-comfortably....then the hate-talk starts....i was only responding to that??!?!? :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


completely utterly innocent i am......
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Postby jayl0ve » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:48

djarvik wrote:
AUSSIE_FABS wrote:Beltic are you attempting to start political argument with americans, worst. idea. ever. You know they aren' restricted by facts, anyway don't think murray deserves own thread lol.

I think there has been less focus on him, which can only be a good thing for him.


I agree. Stupid Americans. How in the world are they still alive?! Disgrace.


I know, huh!?

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Postby beltic caldy » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:51

ermmmm....right....
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Postby jayl0ve » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:57

man I don't know what's going on here any more than you do. I don't really care either. I said he's a fine tennis player damnit! :lol:
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Postby beltic caldy » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:00

jayl0ve wrote:
beltic caldy wrote:or....just had another (dirty rotten horrible BAAAAD me!) thought.....

you could drop sarah palin an email, and tell her Murray really really REALLY likes the healthcare reform bill......sorted?

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


I'm gonna be honest and say that I don't even undestand this :lol:

Don't give a s**t about politics....it's all a conspiracy anyways



"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" - Verbal, The Usual Suspects - when people talk about conspiracy theorists, that's what I think of : )

Re my remarks about Palin - guessing you didn't read the link to the article I posted before mate!!!!

see below...again :wink: (ps - must try harder)

beltic caldy wrote:holding off on my own take before a few more comments come in - thanks for input Jay - while we're waiting, have a read through this - it's quite a long article, in comparison - check it tho - be interested in, specifically, your take on it:

http://www.politicususa.com/en/palin-hit-list-terror


rich

ps - did you watch the 3 min news report?
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Postby beltic caldy » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:01

jayl0ve wrote:man I don't know what's going on here any more than you do. I don't really care either. I said he's a fine tennis player damnit! :lol:


well said my friend!!
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Postby Moralspain » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:31

speaking of Murray: written in his blog for the Australian Open

Nadal Was Murray’s Wake-Up Call

“Some of you probably know that Nadal and I have been competitors and good friends since our teenage years, but you may not realise he was a major influence in my decision to leave home at 15 to move to Spain. We were part of a group of guys playing racquetball. I was asking all the guys in this group who they were practising with and when Nadal said Carlos Moya, it was a big wake-up call. I realised I was not doing enough and knew I had to move.”

"As well as helping me become a tennis player, I also met my two best friends there, one from Peru and the other from Venezuela. Dani travels with me as my hitting partner and is a very good player. Given this, you would think I'd be able to speak Spanish well. Sadly, it's pretty ropey. I understand quite a lot when people are speaking but the problem was everyone spoke English there, because it was an international academy. So while I tried to speak to my friends in Spanish, they would reply in English, so I didn't learn as much as I would have liked.”


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Postby Cro Morgan » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:16

One might not guess it from my previous comments, but I actually like Murray (more than jayl0ve anyway). However, no dismissing the fact that he has advanced to two Grand Slam finals and has not won a single set. Not one! You'd expect that from a Baghdatis/Tsonga**, but not Murray - after all, he supposed to be better than that.

** Unlike Murray, actually did take a set in their lone Grand Slam final appearance. :P
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Postby VillaJ100 » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:12

I like murray, he seems like a really nice guy. Bit shy. He has a unfortunate knack of running into people in grand slams who play the game of their lives though see cliic, wawrinkra, and the other one of being overwhelmed in slam finals. He is more than capable of winning slams and beating the likes of nadal, federer, along the way.
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Postby Moralspain » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:21

ok enough..unmask yourselves guys, you like Murray, nothing to be afraid of guys... come on say it loud "I like Andy"...
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Postby beltic caldy » Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:22

Cro Morgan wrote:One might not guess it from my previous comments, but I actually like Murray (more than jayl0ve anyway). However, no dismissing the fact that he has advanced to two Grand Slam finals and has not won a single set. Not one! You'd expect that from a Baghdatis/Tsonga**, but not Murray - after all, he supposed to be better than that.

** Unlike Murray, actually did take a set in their lone Grand Slam final appearance. :P



....which is disappointing - most likely for no-one moreso than him - I'm reminded a little of Ivan Lendl never winning Wimbledon.

For me, Murray's percentage-style, sometimes (!!) lacking in aggression-tennis is also quite reminiscent of a certain Swede from a few years back.....one Mr B Borg? Murray lacks Borg's 'televisual appeal', certainly - but Borg's style wasn't particularly flash-bang - much of his popularity came from a largely non-tennis-playing crowd - ie teenage girls who quite simply fancied the shorts off the man - Murray certainly doesn't have that particular quality.

I've called him a journeyman in the past - someone who's there to get as far as he can in a competition - seeming sometimes to focus more on not losing, than actually winning, and maybe that wasn't that inaccurate. But I do think his game is different from where he was 2 or 3 years ago - it's natural to revert back to it now and then if things don't go his way for a few games - who wouldn't - when aggressive and attacking means risk of losing, why not fall back to your 'b' game to recoup - but it's perhaps that thinking/perspective that needs to be addressed, and is being addressed...perhaps.

To comment a little on the Nadal post a little earlier too - I honestly believe that Murray and Nadal have more in common than not. To my mind, Nadal is simply not the most talented/artistic tennis player out there - his tenacity, determination and will-to-never-give-up on the other hand are daunting qualities - more than daunting....superhuman really, and beyond anything i've ever seen, in any sportsman, in any sport - it questions my understanding of human psychology/physiology how he does it. Murray, likewise is not the most artistic/creative player on the tour, not by a mile - but there's an intelligence and tactical quality to his play that is pretty uncommon on the tour too - that coupled with his huge fitness and athleticism have made him very very successful....if not as 'watchable' as Nadal, or certainly Federer or Agassi - the flamboyant chaps. Both Nadal and Murray rely on very very high levels of physicality and determination - and both do well from shining in those areas - Nadal is of course more watchable...he's a phenomenal force of nature...you watch him with a sense of awe - but not at his skill alone. Murray's style is waaaaaaaaay less watchable, but he's done pretty well with it too.

Finally - it really, to me, depends on what you want to watch - boom boom tennis, or a tactical, strategic battle of wits and wills, with the racquets, balls and stuff almost incidental, if not at least playing a back seat in the competition.

just my thruppence...... :D

Al - you're one of the true aficionado's round these parts....as opposed to an over-opinionated, under educated irish chap like myself....what think you?
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