Davis Cup Awarded ATP Points

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Do you agree with the decision of ATP and ITF to award ATP Ranking points for Davis Cup?

Yes, I agree.
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No, it's non-sense (ok, it's stupid)
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Davis Cup Awarded ATP Points

Postby Ir0kuM4t4 » Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:38

The ITF and the ATP announced today that Davis Cup by BNP Paribas will be awarded South African Airways ATP Ranking Points from 2009, an incentive to make players represent their nations.

All the news here: http://www.atptennis.com/1/en/2008news/davis_atppoints.asp

What's your opinion? Do you agree? No? Why? In my opinion it's a good idea because many players simply don't care about Davis Cup and don't make a minimum effort to play for their countries. On the other hand I just see an inconvenient as many teams will have much more advantages than others. Just see the case, for example, comparing USA with Switzerland. Even that Federer would play, the team is practically just him, who would be able to make the team to reach a final? Wawrinka, Allegro? And many other teams, so there are some single players who will much more advantages once their team is much better also. Still, in general I agree with this decision. Tell your opinions!
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Postby Cro Morgan » Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:05

Awarding points to capture interest is the wrong plan of attack. The Davis Cup will remain a farce as long as it's an annual event. Hold it every three years and winning the Cup will actually mean something. Then, more players would climb on board.
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Postby Chris ITST » Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:31

Great Idea we may now see Federer play sometime.
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Postby Sherlock 117 » Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:41

Well, they didn't give much information as to how the points would work exactly, but it seemed to me like it actually wouldn't be that big of a factor to really top players like Nadal or Federer, who would have other tournaments worth more points, but maybe for somebody like Blake it would be very useful.

I think this is a good idea. It will surely give a small added incentive to people like Federer who are on the fence about playing Davis Cup. But even more important it will reward those who are already committed to playing and love playing for their country anyways. I think the latter reason is mostly why it is being done, because these players cut out weeks they could be resting to play for their team, and this should be rewarded.
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Postby Lucho » Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:55

it's great! :wink:
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Postby jayl0ve » Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:15

Cro Morgan wrote:Awarding points to capture interest is the wrong plan of attack. The Davis Cup will remain a farce as long as it's an annual event. Hold it every three years and winning the Cup will actually mean something. Then, more players would climb on board.


Exactly...right now, Davis Cup is like going to your friend's 2 year-old kid's birthday party...you don't care about it, you don't want to be there, but you know somebody's going to be mad at you if you don't go (the 'somebody' in D.C's case being the tennis media, who seem to think D.C is important for some reason).
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Postby Bowler2151 » Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:04

That idea is very bad and just to get more players to do it, very bad idea. Maybe it should be like the world cup where u have the davis cup every 4 years or have thats to long in between. every 2 years sounds good to me. I think if u did that way more players would do it.
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Postby bergkamptheone » Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:26

Sherlock 117 wrote:Well, they didn't give much information as to how the points would work exactly, but it seemed to me like it actually wouldn't be that big of a factor to really top players like Nadal or Federer, who would have other tournaments worth more points, but maybe for somebody like Blake it would be very useful.

I think this is a good idea. It will surely give a small added incentive to people like Federer who are on the fence about playing Davis Cup. But even more important it will reward those who are already committed to playing and love playing for their country anyways. I think the latter reason is mostly why it is being done, because these players cut out weeks they could be resting to play for their team, and this should be rewarded.


I second that.
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Postby matiasfederer » Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:20

I think it's great to the youngest players, but for the Federers or the Nadals, it's so bad, because they will be bound to play, if not, they will get down in the rank. They D . C should give points, but not quit them, by this way, much more players will appear and could play in the main events with the D C points
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Postby bergkamptheone » Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:25

matiasfederer wrote:I think it's great to the youngest players, but for the Federers or the Nadals, it's so bad, because they will be bound to play, if not, they will get down in the rank. They D . C should give points, but not quit them, by this way, much more players will appear and could play in the main events with the D C points


I dont think the amount of points will be as high or decisive as, say, a French Open or Wimbledon win. Otherwise, I think it would be unfair.
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Postby Ir0kuM4t4 » Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:19

bergkamptheone wrote:
matiasfederer wrote:I think it's great to the youngest players, but for the Federers or the Nadals, it's so bad, because they will be bound to play, if not, they will get down in the rank. They D . C should give points, but not quit them, by this way, much more players will appear and could play in the main events with the D C points


I dont think the amount of points will be as high or decisive as, say, a French Open or Wimbledon win. Otherwise, I think it would be unfair.


The amount of points a player can get is, maximum 500 points, the same as Masters Series Shield (Masters Series Tournament title) and that is if the player wins all his single's matches.
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Postby Sherlock 117 » Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:31

Yeah I think someone has to win 8 Davis Cup singles matches in a year, and his team has to win the Davis Cup, to get 500 points.
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