Serena

[supinesmokey13]

It's certainly Sharapova she was talking about who even made a statement about it (couldn't be bothered). Not worth making a topic about it though.

how do you know that's just an assumption again no names were mentioned so without proof its still an assumption a smart one but an assumption none the less because you have no concrete proof to back it up no did the writer

[supinesmokey13]

I can't believe you're defending Serena's comments on this. If a man said of a woman who was raped "she was lucky, she shouldn't have put herself in that position"....... well...... no one would be defending him.

I talking about the decision to drink as a minor that is on the young lady the incident of being raped isn't that is my point when she has healed and I hoe she does she needs to look at the choice she made to drink as a minor however I do agree that serena didn't word her comment well and wasn't sensitive enough to the situation and I think that is everyones gripe and rightly so but again when the young lady has healed herself and comes to terms with it. it should be a point of reflection in regards to the choice she made to drink as a minor but that isn't the important thing right now for her is the healing process.

again I want to making it clear im not blaming her for the actions of a sick human being but im saying at the right time she should look at the choice she made to drink as a mInor that's what IM SAYING . NO WOMEN RAPED SO EVER BE BLAMED FOR THE INHUMANE BEHAVIOUR OF those sick excuse for men I want to make that very clear.

[supinesmokey13]

I can't believe you're defending Serena's comments on this. If a man said of a woman who was raped "she was lucky, she shouldn't have put herself in that position"....... well...... no one would be defending him.

also it the perception society has created when looking at a specific issue in relation the different sexes the actions of one has different connotations e.g I grab a womens ass im a pervert if she did it no one would bat an eyelid

[djarvik]

didn't word her comment well and wasn't sensitive enough to the situation

That seems to be the constant here and everyone's gripe with her. It just seems like she is that horrible self-serving egomaniac that sometimes says a nice word or two, not the other way around. ...and then the constant "out of context", "not what she meant", "miss interpreted", "misunderstood", "poor choice of words" etc etc

And the "you don't know Serena!" comments get really old and fast, especially coming from people that defend her. They themselves don't know her at all, never met her....but sure are fast on the defense. The fact that she requires defense, constantly, should be enough of a sign that something is not right there...

[djarvik]

I can't believe you're defending Serena's comments on this. If a man said of a woman who was raped "she was lucky, she shouldn't have put herself in that position"....... well...... no one would be defending him.

also it the perception society has created when looking at a specific issue in relation the different sexes the actions of one has different connotations e.g I grab a womens ass im a pervert if she did it no one would bat an eyelid

That I agree with. But, both, man and woman should not say things like that. If they choose too, well, that just makes them look like asses.

[supinesmokey13]

didn't word her comment well and wasn't sensitive enough to the situation

That seems to be the constant here and everyone's gripe with her. It just seems like she is that horrible self-serving egomaniac that sometimes says a nice word or two, not the other way around. ...and then the constant "out of context", "not what she meant", "miss interpreted", "misunderstood", "poor choice of words" etc etc

And the "you don't know Serena!" comments get really old and fast, especially coming from people that defend her. They themselves don't know her at all, never met her....but sure are fast on the defense. The fact that she requires defense, constantly, should be enough of a sign that something is not right there...

your not wrong but I cant help think everyone wait for her to f**k up and then pounce on her mistake so while although she brings it on herself. still when everyone including maria has proof then they should open their mouth on the topic.

on a sidenote maria is gonna get that ass whupped I envision an Olympic final beatdown as if maria potentially standing in her way on winning another slam wasn't ammo enough she puts her boyfriends family business on blast. and the beauty of it when it happens is maria will get slaughter by the media she choose to smear serena in

[Vieira151]

no its making her realise that certain choices you make can have bad consequences. and she is basically saying the young girl and her parents should question the choices she makes and rightly so the culprit is a disgrace to manhood.

but this should also serving as a point of caution to young girls drinking under age she made a choice to drink under age and though that does not mean she derserved to be raped she needs to understand that a choice she made , made her vulnerable and that was Serena's point to not put herself in a postion of vulnerability like she did when she drank as a minor and in that regard serena is right. and although right now the young lady is healing that fact needs to be made aware to her and other young girls so they don't give the sick excuse of a human being like the culprit the chance to do want they did again

That's still victim blaming. What's so hard to tell the guys not to rape girls?

People go out and get drunk, including underaged people. Boys and girls. It's part of human culture, since the Romans and beyond. There is nothing wrong with being drunk. Sure, you can become an alcoholic, or you can binge. But most people don't. It's not the victims fault they were raped. It could have happened to anyone, but it just so happened to her. It's not her fault.

[BrushedBigJJ]

Hers far outweigh any indiscretions from Rafa or Fed...apples and oranges

Agreed those comparisons were stupid. Let Federer say shit once in a while, will make him look less boring

Well if it comes to being less boring no harm no foul, Fed and Rafa are off the hook. I was basing it on whether you would tell your kids to copy the specific things I mentioned they did.

[djarvik]

Have any kids? ...you don't tell them to copy, they just do

[BrushedBigJJ]

That's still victim blaming. What's so hard to tell the guys not to rape girls?

People go out and get drunk, including underaged people. Boys and girls. It's part of human culture, since the Romans and beyond. There is nothing wrong with being drunk. Sure, you can become an alcoholic, or you can binge. But most people don't. It's not the victims fault they were raped. It could have happened to anyone, but it just so happened to her. It's not her fault.

There is a cultural problem to me. There are several conversations going on here: Is a man raping a woman wrong? How/When/Who should tell women (and men) how to make themselves less vulnerable to being raped?

Obviously the first, 99.9% people agree rape is wrong. But the second part is all over the place. A thing that many people agree on is that after someone is raped you basically don't have a conversation about how they can make themselves less vulnerable unless a great deal of time has passed and sometimes it never happens. This is because this conversation can harm the the victim phsycologically a great deal. So it's probabably a good idea to make no mention of how someone who was raped can/should have protecte(d) themselves in public.

However a big problem I see is that there is very little conversation about how girls/women who have not been raped on all the things they can do to protect themselves or make themselves less vulnerable. I think society could do a much better job when it comes to this.