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Postby C4iLL » Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:39

SchwingerMongo wrote:Today you can see the proof that the ATP suckers destroying the game of Tennis more and more.

Let s go back 15 years ago, when they were courts with speed and flat bouncing balls, like Wimbledon and New York.

In the past:
AUS OPEN: average speed, average bouncing
FRENCH OPEN: slow speed, high bouncing
WIMBLEDON: the fastest speed, low bouncing
US OPEN: very fast, medium bouncing

Today it s like:
AUS OPEN: average speed, above average bouncing
FRENCH OPEN: slow speed, high bouncing
WIMBLEDON: fast speed, high bouncing
US OPEN: medium fast, medium bouncing


The sport of Tennis has finally evloved to a baseline BANG BANG BANG, any player with the skills like Edberg, Becker, McEnroe, Stich, Connors get s killed before he can evolve his skills.

Nice for Nadal and Djokovic fans, a shame for Tennis fans!!!!


You're totally right. The surfaces currently reward spin & defensive style everywhere rather than technique / offensive game. It's partly why Roger lost today : the ball was so slow...

Honestly, we're a lot to think the tennis game is in danger because of that.
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Postby Vieira151 » Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:40

VillaJ100 wrote:
El Rey wrote:Nadal- 20 forehand winners, compared to 16 by Fed. Eat that.


I think quite a lot of those are passes though.


What does that tell you? Oh, Federer should stop approaching the net on Nadal's forehands. You are just asking to be killed off when you do that. Federer just didn't realise. Which was retarded.

Apart from that it looked ok, but too many UE from Federer. Granted, I only saw the last set. Shame I wanted Federer to win. Would have been nice to see him play Murray or Djokovic in a final(again).

Also, I don't get all the Nadal hate. :?
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Postby L Sanchez MD » Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:44

Fed approached more to Nadal's backhand I thought, but he was repeatedly passed off any approach shot.
Nadal also got lucky with a lot of netcords, and defensive lobs etc.
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Postby o Sinna o » Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:53

Vieira151 wrote:
VillaJ100 wrote:
El Rey wrote:Nadal- 20 forehand winners, compared to 16 by Fed. Eat that.


I think quite a lot of those are passes though.


What does that tell you? Oh, Federer should stop approaching the net on Nadal's forehands. You are just asking to be killed off when you do that. Federer just didn't realise. Which was retarded.

Apart from that it looked ok, but too many UE from Federer. Granted, I only saw the last set. Shame I wanted Federer to win. Would have been nice to see him play Murray or Djokovic in a final(again).

Also, I don't get all the Nadal hate. :?


Hate is a fruit of your heart you know and to really feel it stranger Things have to happen than that.

I just said my Opinion about all these mind-game-behaviours and made clear that he don't seems likable from what I see. I don't know him personal you know. ^^

But that doesn't mean that Nadal isn't a great Competitor.

Means this has nothing to do with the great Talent Nadal has when it comes to Tennis. ^^
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:11

o Sinna o wrote:
Vieira151 wrote:
VillaJ100 wrote:
El Rey wrote:Nadal- 20 forehand winners, compared to 16 by Fed. Eat that.


I think quite a lot of those are passes though.


What does that tell you? Oh, Federer should stop approaching the net on Nadal's forehands. You are just asking to be killed off when you do that. Federer just didn't realise. Which was retarded.

Apart from that it looked ok, but too many UE from Federer. Granted, I only saw the last set. Shame I wanted Federer to win. Would have been nice to see him play Murray or Djokovic in a final(again).

Also, I don't get all the Nadal hate. :?


Hate is a fruit of your heart you know and to really feel it stranger Things have to happen than that.

I just said my Opinion about all these mind-game-behaviours and made clear that he don't seems likable from what I see. I don't know him personal you know. ^^

But that doesn't mean that Nadal isn't a great Competitor.

Means this has nothing to do with the great Talent Nadal has when it comes to Tennis. ^^
still 35/ 57 points at net will make attacking the net seem more viable .strange as this may sound i wasnt bothered about the errors its when he made them i accept that nadal asks him to play out of his mind consistently so errors would flow.

and the irony was just like in the 09 final his bh was solid in fact he was like nole at times hitting a few laser-like bh's dtl.

wat did annoy me was breaking to love then being broke back to love ultimately these along with the errors at key times are the things he will rue . on the whole still fed is still there and his break point conversion was a bit better he just needs a bit of luck at key times and maybe a slam will come.
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Postby o Sinna o » Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:26

supinesmokey13 wrote:
o Sinna o wrote:
Vieira151 wrote:
VillaJ100 wrote:
El Rey wrote:Nadal- 20 forehand winners, compared to 16 by Fed. Eat that.


I think quite a lot of those are passes though.


What does that tell you? Oh, Federer should stop approaching the net on Nadal's forehands. You are just asking to be killed off when you do that. Federer just didn't realise. Which was retarded.

Apart from that it looked ok, but too many UE from Federer. Granted, I only saw the last set. Shame I wanted Federer to win. Would have been nice to see him play Murray or Djokovic in a final(again).

Also, I don't get all the Nadal hate. :?


Hate is a fruit of your heart you know and to really feel it stranger Things have to happen than that.

I just said my Opinion about all these mind-game-behaviours and made clear that he don't seems likable from what I see. I don't know him personal you know. ^^

But that doesn't mean that Nadal isn't a great Competitor.

Means this has nothing to do with the great Talent Nadal has when it comes to Tennis. ^^
still 35/ 57 points at net will make attacking the net seem more viable .strange as this may sound i wasnt bothered about the errors its when he made them i accept that nadal asks him to play out of his mind consistently so errors would flow.

and the irony was just like in the 09 final his bh was solid in fact he was like nole at times hitting a few laser-like bh's dtl.

wat did annoy me was breaking to love then being broke back to love ultimately these along with the errors at key times are the things he will rue . on the whole still fed is still there and his break point conversion was a bit better he just needs a bit of luck at key times and maybe a slam will come.


Yes absolutely agree.

What I really think is that the real Problem lay in Feds mental Condition.
Fed got beaten so often against Nadal that this is the Cause that he can't unfold his full Talent against him.

This mental Condition detains him to show his best. You can see it if you watch him play. His Spirit, his Actions. You saw it on the unforced errors and some strokes he made.

And we all know that Fed has enough Skills to beat Nadal. But this is a mental Thing.

This Condition would been good enough for many Guys, but not for Nadal in this Form.
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Postby Vieira151 » Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:30

L Sanchez MD wrote:Fed approached more to Nadal's backhand I thought, but he was repeatedly passed off any approach shot.
Nadal also got lucky with a lot of netcords, and defensive lobs etc.


Well, from what I saw on the 4th set Federer had more success approaching to the backhand. I mean, he did it like twice that I remember and I think he won the point both times. The rest were to the forehand, and unsurprisingly he was passed EVERY SINGLE TIME.

And sinna, I wasn't directly talking to you. Other people as well have shown hate for Nadal. :lol:
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Postby o Sinna o » Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:34

Vieira151 wrote:
L Sanchez MD wrote:Fed approached more to Nadal's backhand I thought, but he was repeatedly passed off any approach shot.
Nadal also got lucky with a lot of netcords, and defensive lobs etc.


Well, from what I saw on the 4th set Federer had more success approaching to the backhand. I mean, he did it like twice that I remember and I think he won the point both times. The rest were to the forehand, and unsurprisingly he was passed EVERY SINGLE TIME.

And sinna, I wasn't directly talking to you. Other people as well have shown hate for Nadal. :lol:


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Postby edlglide » Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:03

Nadal is just in Federer's head -- Federer really did not play well. Just look at the number of unforced errors, and especially the forehand unforced errors. He hit a lot of shots on his forehand side that you just don't see him hit normally -- missing what should be easy shots for him.

Nadal played well (especially on the passing shots), but it's not like he was playing out of his mind either. Federer just made it a lot easier for him by consistently making unforced errors, and by refusing to keep hitting it to Nadal's backhand. He kept trying to hit approach shots to Nadal's forehand and he would get passed every single time....and he still kept doing it; it made no sense.

I don't think he can win another major unless someone else beats Nadal....it's like he's got no confidence at all against Nadal so he hits these shots that you never see him hit against anyone else. I think he has a much better chance of beating Djokovic than Nadal.
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Postby VMoe86 » Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:38

edlglide wrote:He kept trying to hit approach shots to Nadal's forehand and he would get passed every single time....and he still kept doing it; it made no sense.

Exactly what crossed my mind so many times during the match: Why on earth did he mainly approach on Nadal's forehand? Especially since hitting to Nadal's backhand worked so well in the first set, but he abandoned that strategy. He pulled the trigger way too early so many times.

If Djokovic makes the final, watch him hitting to Nadal's backhand most of the time and waiting for the right moment to go down the line with the forehand. That's the reason why I prefer the Djokovic-Federer match-up, because it is not about making the other player play worse (this happens in both Djokovic-Nadal and Nadal-Federer).

edlglide wrote:I don't think he can win another major unless someone else beats Nadal....it's like he's got no confidence at all against Nadal so he hits these shots that you never see him hit against anyone else. I think he has a much better chance of beating Djokovic than Nadal.

I still think he can beat Nadal at a major, but it probably has to be the US Open where Federer gets more free points with his serve and the bounce is a bit lower than at the Australian Open. Wimbledon he also has chances, but he has to stop being stubborn.
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Postby Amazing Matheja » Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:09

I just don't understand why the men's semis are not the same day... Not fair at all !...
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Postby VillaJ100 » Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:42

Fantastic from both men today, can't say any more
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Postby o Sinna o » Sat, 28 Jan 2012 02:29

Ok I am ready for some Screams in seven hours. :lol:
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Postby o Sinna o » Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:03

So now I look that I can sleep three hours from six o'clock until nine o'clock in the morning.

The Match starts at 9:30 in the morning and now we have five o'clock in the morning in Germany. ^^

I hope the Match will be worth it. ^^
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Postby Corbon » Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:59

Disappointing final. Was only exciting until the second half of the first set.

Congrats to Vika for winning her first Slam and becoming No. 1
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