U.S. Open Draw fixed??

[Elargento]

I want to know something : When Nadal was n°1, I ALWAYS saw the forth seed on his draw side, most of the time Murray, and n°2 and 3 seed in the bottom of the draw.
And since Djoko take the throne, I noticed that he seems to always have Rodger in his draw side, so n°3 seed.. Are these men bounded by something ? ôo

Question is; Are draws planified (for the top forth seeds I mean) ? Or n°3 and 4 seeds are determined by drawing lots ? Maybe I don't watch enough tennis tournament's draws..


Back to the subject, the graphic in the middle of the article seems to speak for itself.. 0.3 and 0 percent of 'draw simulations as easy as actual draws' for MS and WS, that's pretty scary, or enormous coincidence : D

Hope that's not true through :/

I think it works like this:

The 1st and 2nd seeds are placed top and bottom.
Then they do a draw between 3rd and 4th to see who goes where. Then the same for 5-8th, then 9-16th, then 17-32nd. The rest is random, I think.

it's not quite like that but you are pretty close. my english is pretty bad in order for me to explain this in writing but the place the seeds a bit less random from places 9-32, for example a player seeded 1-4 can never play the 26th seed in the third round, he will be playing one of the last 4 seeds.

[Mike Rotchtickles]

I voted 'maybe'...there's no real proof, so I can't say 'yes', but it wouldn't surprise me at all. It also wouldn't really bother me either. I just wish they would be honest about it and say that the draw isn't totally random.

Yeah I'll go along with this.
You definately gotta wonder sometimes.
I mean the Novak and Roger thing in draws is losing some of it's randomness, so to speak.

When they haven't both been the 1 and 2 seeds, looking at this year alone I think it's something like 6 to 3 against that they find themselves in the same half, including these last two Masters tourneys and all three slams.

As you say, let's not say it's fixed, no concrete proof of that. Let's rather see it as a gentle "massaging" of the draw, every now and then.

[VMoe86]

ITST draws are fixed: I got the same R128 opponent at Rogers Cup and Western & Southern Open. And in both tournaments I'm in the same bracket with MAS84.

Seriously, nothing to add to what Sherlock 117 has already pointed out.

[JonathanH051088]

i've never understood how the draws work, they can't be completely random, you would never see nadal vs federer in a 1st round for example.

[JonathanH051088]

i've never understood how the draws work, they can't be completely random, you would never see nadal vs federer in a 1st round for example.

never mind, i watched the video and she explained it to me. LOL.

[braadamg6]

yall are missing it.....1-4 seeds will always have the same place in the draw no matter what tournament it is. Then the 5-8 seeds are randomly placed in the 5-8 slots (this avoids repeat matchups) so on and so forth until all the seeds are used (depending on the size of the tournament) then the rest of the players are thrown into the remaining slots. (qualies and wildcards may have pre determined spots which they are randomly assigned to, however i am not sure)

[Sanoww]

Then if first seed encounter the forth in semi finals (in they won, indeed), why we saw Murray against Djokovic today at Cincinnati's final ?

When everybody tell the exact opposite of the theory you impose to us, maybe it's time to questionning yourself, don't you think ?

[Mike Rotchtickles]

Let me guess,

Could it be that Fed and Djokovic are in the same half of the draw again again again again....


Redefining the meaning of "randomness"

[Tuurbine]

Let me guess,

Could it be that Fed and Djokovic are in the same half of the draw again again again again....


Redefining the meaning of "randomness"

Yeap once again by pure "luck" both guys are in the same bracket, trying to froce a Fedal final

[Sanoww]

Luck is boring these times : (