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Rafa or Nole?

Rafa in 3
6
19%
Rafa in 4
11
34%
Nole in 3
4
13%
Nole in 4
7
22%
Nole in 5
4
13%
 
Total votes : 32

Postby Samael » Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:58

Yeah, it's hard to let it go. At least it was less.... bad than CHED's. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Chederer » Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:27

:lol: :lol: :lol: Murray will get there...
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Postby coke4 » Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:33

I think Djokovic played very well, he lost due to reasons
Mental Strength- no need to explain
And tactics- i thought a lot of what I saw (up to rain delay 4-4 2nd set) djokovic on the whole wasnt playing aggressive enough, he got the mix right at the start of the 2nd and probably could have gone up a double break if he had made that easy BH pass at 1-4 0-15, but for the most of the match I thought he was trying to win the long rallies, look at his previous Harc Court matches v Rafa, he played much more agressivly.
That being said it might have not made much of a difference, but I think it might have made it a bit closer.
Overall was it a good final? I only saw 2 sets
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:59

coke4 wrote:I think Djokovic played very well, he lost due to reasons
Mental Strength- no need to explain
And tactics- i thought a lot of what I saw (up to rain delay 4-4 2nd set) djokovic on the whole wasnt playing aggressive enough, he got the mix right at the start of the 2nd and probably could have gone up a double break if he had made that easy BH pass at 1-4 0-15, but for the most of the match I thought he was trying to win the long rallies, look at his previous Harc Court matches v Rafa, he played much more agressivly.
That being said it might have not made much of a difference, but I think it might have made it a bit closer.
Overall was it a good final? I only saw 2 sets


Quality of tennis was extremely high, One of the best matches I have seen from BOTH players.

....and Djokovic actually played better then when he beat Federer. The only thing that I might agree with you on is mental problem. It seems that it could have been a bit closer should Djoker make a few shots at key points.....but then again, he saved TONS of BPs - which means he was there mentally.

Lets face it, Rafa is just better player then Novak at the moment. I would even say much better player.
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Postby Chederer » Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:02

the 4th set was a complete mental breakdown for Nole....the way he won the 2nd set is the way he should have played the whole match...stepping inside the baseline and going for his shots
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:05

CHEDERER wrote:the 4th set was a complete mental breakdown for Nole....the way he won the 2nd set is the way he should have played the whole match...stepping inside the baseline and going for his shots


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Postby Chederer » Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:13

maybe we can have Djokovic Nadal rivalries in the future....i think more players especially Djokovic will look at Nadal and the way he worked to improve and they will maybe take this same work ethic and improve themselves
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:18

CHEDERER wrote:maybe we can have Djokovic Nadal rivalries in the future....i think more players especially Djokovic will look at Nadal and the way he worked to improve and they will maybe take this same work ethic and improve themselves


You kidding right? ....Djoker is a workaholic, works just as hard as Rafa, same goes for Murray.


Unless you talking about Gulbis 8) :lol:
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Postby coke4 » Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:18

djarvik wrote:Quality of tennis was extremely high, One of the best matches I have seen from BOTH players.

....and Djokovic actually played better then when he beat Federer. The only thing that I might agree with you on is mental problem. It seems that it could have been a bit closer should Djoker make a few shots at key points.....but then again, he saved TONS of BPs - which means he was there mentally.

Lets face it, Rafa is just better player then Novak at the moment. I would even say much better player.


No doubt Djokovic played very very well, there are only a few things he could have improved on, serve, volley, bit more pace on ball and his BH i thought didnt look quite the way it used to, but i have been seeing this a lot recently.
But overall a very good performance, one, if not the best of his year, probably at 85%-90%.
But i think he got some tactics wrong, his aggression was one of them, his return of serve was another, he returned well, but was maybe trying to put too much on 1st serve and not enough on 2nd serve, i say he was a bit nervous, it being a GS and all, and he didnt want to 100% commit, I would say if they were playing in a Masters 1000 at more or less the same level final Djokovic would have won, as there would be less pressure and he would have played more aggressively.
But it wasn't, it was a GS final, and he wasnt able to do it. I think he needs a harder coach, who pushes him more, him and Vajda are too close, which is great, but i say he finds it hard to make him execute some things he says sometimes.
But a very good match, im happy, he should be happy.
Maybe this is Djokovic bias, maybe not.

Also i think at 100% v. 100% on hard Djokovic would win, on clay/grass Nadal would, but on hard i would say Djokovic will mostly win
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Postby Elargento » Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:26

nice way to accept the defeat for djokovic, he has grown up a lot. he played his best but wasn't enough to defeat rafa.
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Postby Chederer » Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:28

djarvik wrote:
CHEDERER wrote:maybe we can have Djokovic Nadal rivalries in the future....i think more players especially Djokovic will look at Nadal and the way he worked to improve and they will maybe take this same work ethic and improve themselves


You kidding right? ....Djoker is a workaholic, works just as hard as Rafa, same goes for Murray.


Unless you talking about Gulbis 8) :lol:


Gulbis is at a career high No. 25 :lol: :lol:
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:30

CHEDERER wrote:
djarvik wrote:
CHEDERER wrote:maybe we can have Djokovic Nadal rivalries in the future....i think more players especially Djokovic will look at Nadal and the way he worked to improve and they will maybe take this same work ethic and improve themselves


You kidding right? ....Djoker is a workaholic, works just as hard as Rafa, same goes for Murray.


Unless you talking about Gulbis 8) :lol:


Gulbis is at a career high No. 25 :lol: :lol:


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