Warm-up is REAL need

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Warm-up is REAL need

Postby Fez » Fri, 12 Jul 2013 06:38

So, I know a warm-up option has been suggested before. But I think it should be set up where if one user wants to do a one-game warm-up before a match then the other user must agree. First of all its realistic, pros warm-up. Second its good to adjust to connections conditions. I can't tell you how many first game breaks I've suffered getting used to conditions.

If both users agree to no warm-up then thats ok, but if one wants it, it should be mandatory.

Anyone agree?
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby costiiforzaa » Fri, 12 Jul 2013 07:27

FezAzulay wrote:So, I know a warm-up option has been suggested before. But I think it should be set up where if one user wants to do a one-game warm-up before a match then the other user must agree. First of all its realistic, pros warm-up. Second its good to adjust to connections conditions. I can't tell you how many first game breaks I've suffered getting used to conditions.

If both users agree to no warm-up then thats ok, but if one wants it, it should be mandatory.

Anyone agree?

I was talking about this idea before. So I totally agree.
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby inseedious » Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:55

I agree about the warm up. It's needed to keep quickly confident to the ball and try some angles, and it's also useful to test the delay settings. It's always annoying having to restart a match because of bad delay settings, it just kills the realism.

On the other side, I don't agree on playing 1-2 games as warm up. Real pros, as you said, do some warm up before the match, but they don't try some real points. It's totally realistic to be disoriented at the first games (of course, just when it is not due to the lag, but just to the tension), it adds even more tactical and psychological factors to the game.

So, I agree with the warm up (including also some services, triggerable with some buttons), but I'd wait for an implementation of this feature, instead of doing it on our owns.
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby costiiforzaa » Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:41

It will be nice to be added a choice if you want to train only serving or returning when you enter "warm up". So far if I want to train serve or return I have to go in "Match". And there it is not only to train serve or return. Example: In Fifa, you can choose to train dribbling, penalties, long passes and other stuff. This is what I mean for TE.
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby VMoe86 » Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:47

There is a way to train serve. ;) Put your character choice on Player 1 and Player 2, both human, both with let's say Keyboard 1 controls. Turn Off split screen, then you can switch with F2 the view: After you finish a service game with one player you press F2 and continue serving with him.

I typically do some offline warm-up and that's it for me: The delay (except some high ones like 200ms delay) has not been a problem for me to play in, the technical side of my game is working, but what can happen is some lack of intensity at the start -- this is more mental.
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby C4iLL » Fri, 12 Jul 2013 12:39

I agree with the warmup option ; or other option, creating a setting that adds delay to offline game (playing in offline with 117 delay etc, don't know if it's technically possible).
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby VMoe86 » Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:48

Regarding this, 2 months ago someone had this idea:

VMoe86 wrote:Something that crossed my mind several times, but once again after reading that serve change for 1.0a: Is it possible to play with Delay offline? Would probably be good to prepare better for certain opponents in online matches, where you know how the Delay is going to be.


manutoo wrote:VMoe86,
nope, I won't do that ; I guess I could do it (almost) easily on the controls, but for the whole experience (ie: opponent prediction) that would be quite painful.
And if you want that coz you think it changes the aiming, then it means you didn't get how it was working, and the solution is not to make the offline gets some Delay, which would only deepen you in your mistakes, but to read the doc => http://www.managames.com/tennis/doc/Ten ... ml#network ("Game creation" block).
I always play with different Delays and my aiming is very little bit influenced by it (ie: it's challenging only on sliced serve & volley where the aiming window can get quite small, thus it's more stressing & leads more easily to errors ;) ).


VMoe86 wrote:Then it is adding aiming dead time what I had in mind, I kind of use Delay and aiming dead time equivalently. Personally I can play up until 167ms Delay without any problem, with 184ms and 200ms Delay I make some more Safe Shots, so for me it is not really a problem, but when I hear some players like C4iLL moaning about a bit higher Delay and him making more mistakes due to it -- I'd just like to point him to play offline with such dead time.


manutoo wrote:Just tell him to never release left/right before hitting the ball, and if he does, then it's a mistiming and he deserves to send the ball out..! ;)
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby C4iLL » Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:29

I think Manutoo should play a south american guy after having played an offline match with ITST mod, he won't say offline aiming = online aiming afterwards. But maybe I don't understand the advice he gives at the end of hist post ?
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby costiiforzaa » Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:50

C4iLL wrote:I think Manutoo should play a south american guy after having played an offline match with ITST mod, he won't say offline aiming = online aiming afterwards. But maybe I don't understand the advice he gives at the end of hist post ?

Give him Juani. :c :c
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby Fez » Fri, 12 Jul 2013 22:36

well, I don't really care about offline stuff. Manutoo doesn't have to be involved. Itst can just make it a policy to do a little warm-up if someone wants to. Easy, quick, simple.
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby ax4chidori » Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:24

Sorry for being off topic: HOW DO YOU START YOUR OWN FORUM TOPIC!?




Also, I do think that it would be interesting to see how the warm-ups would work-out before a match. I think that is is very practical in the reality, but I am not sure how practical it would be before a match online; if that makes since.
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby Woowhat » Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:19

ax4chidori wrote:Sorry for being off topic: HOW DO YOU START YOUR OWN FORUM TOPIC!?


You either must be a Frenchman or pay their mafia to allow you. They run this place and nothing is free.
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby ax4chidori » Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:31

Can I b granted initiation into the french mafia, and if so how hard is it to join? That would be awesome! Wait..... is there a hidden initiation fee? Never mind I'm too much of a penny pincher to join! The only reason I joined ITST is because its FREE, not because I think I'm a good player! lol



No seriously I have no idea how to start a forum, but I do know how to post a reply to an active forum though. I already checked all of the FAQ's and any question answering section on this website. Asking on an active forum is my only hope to gain this answer.
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby Rob ITST » Tue, 23 Jul 2013 00:27

Just go to the section you want to start a thread in, and click "new topic".
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Re: Warm-up is REAL need

Postby ax4chidori » Tue, 23 Jul 2013 03:24

Thanks man!
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