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Postby pidzi » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:15

Its my first topic and prolly for a long time also the last one since im not discussion type, so ill be quick.

I just dont get how does Almagro and even Verdasco can have much better stats than lets say Ferrer ?
Ferrer who is actually quite screwed up with his stats especially his forehand consistency and precision also serve precision is ridiculous and surely his stamina while in rl he is physically best prepared competitor yet he has no special stat on stamina
Plus whats even more strange is that he is on par with Harrison(who is in rl pathetic at best) - its like totally bad of points allocation in many players.

Thats it, all i want is to reconsider some players stats (also nadal, nalbandian, lopez and alike )
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Re: Players stats

Postby Uchiha Muss » Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:12

In my opinion Ferrer is no better than most of the top 20. He just has large reserves of stamina that helps him outlast his opponents. I've seen many times where Ferrer lost the 1st set and then he defeated them with score like 6-2 6-1 in the other 2 sets. That's because he gives a good fight all the time even though he loses 1st set. But for the other ones the opponent is too tired and can't produce the quality of 1st set.

Another example is how he always loses pathetically to top 4. Final in Acapulco against nadal and semi-final in AO against djokovic are the latest obvious examples. On the other hand players like Del Potro, Berdych, Wawrinka they really give their best against top 4 and from those matches you almost become sure that they should be ranked 5th. But when they play with ferrer something is gone from their game style.

Also the game doesn't favour short players. Top spin is so much better in this game that Ferrer simply can't reach them. Personal experience if you ask me.

Nadal is all right, I don't really know much about lopes and nalbandian but at least some people choose them.
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Re: Players stats

Postby C4iLL » Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:54

You need to take in account something in your analysis : the stats of the roster are not made to be perfectly realistic.
The goal is to get inspiration from these real players, determinate trends for each characters, and afterwards, find a balance in the roster.

If the staff makes the roster 100% realistic, then Djokovic would have 100% in FH and BH power, and guys outside the top4 80. Nobody would then take them.

The goal of the mod is to promote a variety of choices, to avoid Djokovic vs Djokovic Matches or Nadal vs Nadal.

Now Ferrer trend what it is ? He has an average FH, an average BH, an average service, average Net play. He's just a guy with a lot of endurance and bravery. When you look at Verdasco trend ? Big FH. Almagro ? Very powerful in both wings and in service.
Even if Ferrer is better ranked at ATP, the trends give him no great specificities whereas guys like Tsonga, Del Potro Berdych, less ranked, have big weapons in their style and in the ITST roster (big FH, big Service). Regarding the goal of the ITST mode, the stats are logical. As I said, the goal is not 100% realism, but it's 100% variety and fun. It's almost possible to win a tournament with any characters, that's great !

Since beginning, the staff had issue to find the good stats for Ferrer because of that.
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