3D Courts adds, Yes or No ?

[Elias]

Depending the camera used in 3D mode, several players reported having some trouble to see the ball properly due to bright adds/writings on some 3D courts.

So what do you think is the best. Should we get rid of court adds in 3D mode (switching to plain color backgrounds then).I don't mind releasing a specific no-add version along with 1.13, though in the future i'd rather have to pack only one version, thus the question/poll.

[inseedious]

I voted for no adds, but as I said, even just making the adds darker would be ok.

[Woowhat]

No cos it's easier to return when the wall is blank but it's really not that much of a problem.

I voted for no adds, but as I said, even just making the adds darker would be ok.

This. Or replace adds with a big picture of shirtless Federer while hitting the backhand.

[C4iLL]

Yeah WTF was impossible to play because of that and Dubai will be the same apparently :/
I vote for making them darker as Inseedious said

[Clog]

I only play with 2D courts. Against all odds, it feels more realistic to me, and I see the ball better. I only switch to 3D courts sometimes when the camera is too close to the floor on 2D courts like the O2 arena for instance.

[tigerofintegrity]

Some court ads, such as the bright red one in the recent Brasil Open, do make it harder to see the ball when returning. In such a reactive shot like returning, registering the ball a little bit later can make a significant difference.

[inseedious]

I only play with 2D courts. Against all odds, it feels more realistic to me, and I see the ball better. I only switch to 3D courts sometimes when the camera is too close to the floor on 2D courts like the O2 arena for instance.

You're not against all odds. There are several experienced players who play in 2d, and I'm trying to switch back to the 2d too. This game is not technique totally based, so having a 3d court is making me caring too much about camera setting, instead of focusing on tactical and overall gaming improvement. When there's a tourney, practicing on its court to feel more comfortable with it is itself a very good training. Some 3d courts are also too bright to me (like marseille one). But it's also true, of course, that 2d mode has some bad courts, and, even if the opponent agrees to change court, there can be slight differences between courts with the same surface (i mean ball speed, friction, etc.). We should try then to replace some bad 2d courts with playable ones, even if it's not always possible, as some courts have very low stands. We'll see.

[VMoe86]

You're not against all odds. There are several experienced players who play in 2d, and I'm trying to switch back to the 2d too. This game is not technique totally based, so having a 3d court is making me caring too much about camera setting, instead of focusing on tactical and overall gaming improvement.

Those experienced players started with TE 2009 and back then there was only a 2D Mode -- their Key only allows playing in 2D Mode, they'd need to buy a new Key to play in 3D Mode. For me the 3D Mode (I play in standard camera put on mild dynamic) helps with perception of depth -- something I see those playing in 2D Mode struggling more.

When there's a tourney, practicing on its court to feel more comfortable with it is itself a very good training. Some 3d courts are also too bright to me (like marseille one). But it's also true, of course, that 2d mode has some bad courts, and, even if the opponent agrees to change court, there can be slight differences between courts with the same surface (i mean ball speed, friction, etc.). We should try then to replace some bad 2d courts with playable ones, even if it's not always possible, as some courts have very low stands. We'll see.

There are no differences with courts on the same surface (the surface specifications are the same, except for grass season where Wimbledon court is a tad bit slower than the other grass courts) -- the different camera heights/angles give a slower/faster perception of the same surface. For example Paris Bercy and London O2 Arena have a slow feeling in 2D Mode (I guess that's why some players picked London O2 Arena for current indoor courts ).

[inseedious]

I know that lower points of view cause a slower perception of the ball, I just thought there were some differences between the same surfaces, but I'm wrong then.