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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby Woowhat » Fri, 31 May 2013 07:57

Seems like a good stuff.Acceleration thing sounds interesting. One question, does tonicity have any effect on overall stamina consumption? Like if you have 2 guys, both same speed, spin and power stats but one has tonicity 49 and other 50, is there any difference for stamina?
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby C4iLL » Fri, 31 May 2013 09:20

So far, great update on the baseline I definitely have the feeling to play something like US Open version. Robbin you should take Berdych or Del Potro :D

Anyway, I still have some doubt about net play, it seems it's impossible to SV with some characters because of 2 things : they come too slowly to the net ; they can't moove quick at left or right when they are the net, it's now nearly impossible to be on the ball if the shot is not on you... It's somehow as if the net presence has been indirectly and drastically decreased.

From what I saw, but this need to be more investigated, it's easier to play at the net with players like Simon than Haas or Llodra, which is not logical.
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby VMoe86 » Fri, 31 May 2013 11:02

C4iLL wrote:So far, great update on the baseline I definitely have the feeling to play something like US Open version. Robbin you should take Berdych or Del Potro :D

This is a good impression (the US Open comment :p), because that was how I felt after trying some Tonicity settings before we made a final decision for a normalized approach (first 0% Tonicity, then 100% and finally 50% felt ok).

C4iLL wrote:Anyway, I still have some doubt about net play, it seems it's impossible to SV with some characters because of 2 things : they come too slowly to the net ; they can't moove quick at left or right when they are the net, it's now nearly impossible to be on the ball if the shot is not on you... It's somehow as if the net presence has been indirectly and drastically decreased.

From what I saw, but this need to be more investigated, it's easier to play at the net with players like Simon than Haas or Llodra, which is not logical.

One option is to have players with better Run Acceleration, but lower Speed. Say, how about giving someone 74% Speed and 66% Tonicity? This results in 70% Run Acceleration. With this first approach we did not want to include such things, but that's something you can expect in future updates -- it allows to create special characters, which are maybe slow in maximum speed, but can get to the net quickly.

Woowhat wrote:Seems like a good stuff.Acceleration thing sounds interesting. One question, does tonicity have any effect on overall stamina consumption? Like if you have 2 guys, both same speed, spin and power stats but one has tonicity 49 and other 50, is there any difference for stamina?

manutoo did not tell us anything more than Run Acceleration = 0.5 * Speed + 0.5 * Tonicity. :p I did not see it affecting Stamina, also played with 100% Tonicity.
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby eliomelma » Fri, 31 May 2013 11:33

incredible works, great!!! how does the record in-game option works exactly? maybe only one bad thing, the first and second serve writing is on the player run now.
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby J. Grilo » Fri, 31 May 2013 13:10

how does the record in-game option works exactly?


I tried it yesterday, i choosed "Real-Time". After all this matches, you click the recording button again and you can see and choose a match.

The only thing, which i find confusing is: I couldn't watch 1 match at first, i had to switch to "Reverse" on record order.
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby Robbin92 » Fri, 31 May 2013 15:34

C4iLL wrote:So far, great update on the baseline I definitely have the feeling to play something like US Open version. Robbin you should take Berdych or Del Potro :D

Anyway, I still have some doubt about net play, it seems it's impossible to SV with some characters because of 2 things : they come too slowly to the net ; they can't moove quick at left or right when they are the net, it's now nearly impossible to be on the ball if the shot is not on you... It's somehow as if the net presence has been indirectly and drastically decreased.

From what I saw, but this need to be more investigated, it's easier to play at the net with players like Simon than Haas or Llodra, which is not logical.

Done, hope it was good advice as I don't see any other Berdych in the draw :p
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby C4iLL » Fri, 31 May 2013 16:43

Ahahah very nice choice ! I'm really looking forward seeing the old Robbin style :mrgreen:
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby eliomelma » Fri, 31 May 2013 16:50

Anyone noticed this: playing aganist fox and goroger and on second serve i would serve a slice serve(corect terme) with b2+down(safe serve 100%)and wawrinka serve for 10 times a powerful serve at 214 km/h and i did 5 double fault. did this safe serve changed?
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby inseedious » Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:29

Every two court changes the players and the ball become darker and almost invisible, have I to set force sun in back off? It's happening in 2d, maybe it's a new feature.
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby Elias » Sat, 01 Jun 2013 14:09

inseedious wrote:Every two court changes the players and the ball become darker and almost invisible, have I to set force sun in back off? It's happening in 2d, maybe it's a new feature.


New feature making the ball invisible ? would be a weird one :mrgreen:
I checked here, i don't have this issue, it's more likely a bug i guess, no idea where it may come from though.
Maybe try different video settings, texture quality 16/32, antialias, filtering etc to check if it helps.
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby eliomelma » Sat, 01 Jun 2013 14:27

Elias wrote:
inseedious wrote:Every two court changes the players and the ball become darker and almost invisible, have I to set force sun in back off? It's happening in 2d, maybe it's a new feature.


New feature making the ball invisible ? would be a weird one :mrgreen:
I checked here, i don't have this issue, it's more likely a bug i guess, no idea where it may come from though.
Maybe try different video settings, texture quality 16/32, antialias, filtering etc to check if it helps.


Elias what about wawrinka safe serve issue? When you hit a seconda safe b2+down , you 60% of the Times he hit a power serve at 213 km/h! Only this char, i tried fed, verdasco, murray, del po', raonic and only wawrinka have this prob.
Edit: offline mode the problem there isn't, but online with other players too, verdasco can't hit a b2+up or down safe spin serve, but only powerful serve
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby Elias » Sat, 01 Jun 2013 15:07

eliomelma wrote:Elias what about wawrinka safe serve issue? When you hit a seconda safe b2+down , you 60% of the Times he hit a power serve at 213 km/h! Only this char, i tried fed, verdasco, murray, del po', raonic and only wawrinka have this prob


I didn't noticed any issue at all here with them regarding b2 serves.. As VMoe told you it probably comes from your setup, the way you hit serves, as TE register key input a bit differently in the last TE build :

- Gameplay : you can now release your button(s) slightly before striking the ball on your serve ; that will allow you to reach the net slightly more easily ; to use that feature, release the pressed button(s), then release the direction (if needed) and then push forward (+ left/right if needed) ; it also works for walking backward, but in that case, it's just very little bit effective


No idea whats happening with your serving really, as i can't manage to reproduce your issue :?
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby eliomelma » Sat, 01 Jun 2013 15:15

My setup is the same of last week. Before 1.14 and from beginning of the tour i keep pressed down and b2 for a 100% safe serve, or up(left/right) +b2 to serve a slow spin serve. Now this combination make a power serve.
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby Elias » Sat, 01 Jun 2013 15:28

eliomelma wrote:My setup is the same of last week. Before 1.14 and from beginning of the tour i keep pressed down and b2 for a 100% safe serve, or up(left/right) +b2 to serve a slow spin serve. Now this combination make a power serve.


It still makes a safe slow serve on my TE/1.14. Seems you are the only one having this issue. No idea whats happening really, b2 triggers slow serves here
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Re: ITST Mod 1.14 - What do you need to get started!

Postby eliomelma » Sat, 01 Jun 2013 15:35

Elias wrote:
eliomelma wrote:My setup is the same of last week. Before 1.14 and from beginning of the tour i keep pressed down and b2 for a 100% safe serve, or up(left/right) +b2 to serve a slow spin serve. Now this combination make a power serve.


It still makes a safe slow serve on my TE/1.14. Seems you are the only one having this issue. No idea whats happening really, b2 triggers slow serves here


Ok only online mode happens
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