Australian Open

[C4iLL]

It should have been a very exhausting match fox ^^, 6 match points saved and you finally won, wow !
Champions never die

I bet Vramvrim must be extremely disappointed...

[Ugadalou]

This Federer is done and finished rant has become tiring.I'm starting to wonder whether 1.0e was balanced or if it was just that Fed was overpowered and everyone using him was happy..

[djarvik]

So is Fed not a Tier One anymore? If yes, then I can finally use him! Hooray!

[Martan]

haha maybe I give him a try too

[Vramvrim]

It should have been a very exhausting match fox ^^, 6 match points saved and you finally won, wow !
Champions never die

I bet Vramvrim must be extremely disappointed...

Sure I am disappointed, but well, it's not like I'm sinking into depression.
As for the match, Fox described it pretty well. I had luck on my side for the first two sets, especially the first (don't get fooled by the score). I don't remember very well the match. I forced myself to forget all the missed opportunities to stay focused on the match, and I don't really have enough courage to go through this again
I sticked to the huge power of Raonic, but as the match went deeper, he defended better and better, and of course the stamina started to be a problem, as he managed to drag me into very long and grueling rallies of 30+ shots (not really Raonic's speciality). At the end of the match I was unable to outhit him and he got the better of me with either great counters or taking advantage of my low stamina.

As for the match points, I think I made unusual mistakes on some, and Fox just retrieved everything until I ran out of stamina on others. I even served with full power on my second serve on one of them and it still wasn't enough. So in the end, it is disappointing but overall I think it was a good performance, and something who will be helpful for the rest of my season. Before this match I was wondering if choosing Raonic on a slow court was a good idea, but in the end I still did well. Now I will continue to experiment new characters and hopefully have some more big matchs against top players.

Here is the dmo of the match, if someone is crazy enough to watch these 1h55mins.

[VMoe86]

Here is the dmo of the match, if someone is crazy enough to watch these 1h55mins.

Maybe not the whole, but a good part of it. Losing with match points against Fox is a good experience, I did it as well and look how it helped me.

[Ugadalou]

I thought I could write a few words about my matches so far:

R64 Ugadalou (Murray) vs. Bata (Del Potro) 6-1/6-3/6-0


R32 Ugadalou (Murray) vs. TheCooler618 (Gulbis) 6-2/6-2/6-0


Both these matches were similar first time facing Bata and Cooler,they were both trying to serve big and employ an offensive baseline game but weren't consistent enough with this type of game.There were some nice rallies and points.


R16 Ugadalou (Murray) vs. G.Dimitrov(BUL) (Dimitrov) 6-1/6-3/6-3


Old acquaintances with Dimitrov, we've played quite some times in the past but not recently, including a similar USO QF with all of them being close with tiebreaks and going to the deciding sets.
However today I think I was in better shape and Dimi had quite a cold start in the first set still trying to find his rhythm,and it's always tough to trail in such matches.It was closer as the match progressed, but still there were only glimpses here and there of his great game and talent.If they had been long enough I would definitely have been in trouble.
We also played an amazing point sometime in the beginning of the 3rd set (2-1 I think) that was tournament highlights material!Long intense rally followed by a net cord and volleys.Unfortunately it is broken in my .dmo I don't know maybe Dimitrov's version works.

[Elias]

Elias (Djokovic) def. tdbchess (Djokovic) 6-2 6-1 6-4

That was a quick win vs. an unlucky tdbchess. We were one day behind the deadline and had to play this match, unfortunately for him, he forgot to bring his laptop from work and thus had to play with another computer,
different keyboard, different sensitivity.. So i somewhat played vs an injured tdbchess who made unusual
errors, so the score doesn't reflect his current level at all. This could have been a very difficult match so
i was lucky there. Sorry for your loss in such conditions, i'm sure some good results will come regarding your
recent level in friendlies.

.


Vlad449 (Davydenko) def. Elias(Djokovic) 5-7 6-2 2-6 6-4 13-11

Well, i just played (and lost) the longest marathon i ever played on ITST Tour

2h36 real playing time, 5h11 simulated time

I can't even remember all key moments, i'm burned out . We played at a good level, nothing extraordinary but some consistent level you can find among the 1400-1800 Elo range, We both had our good momentums and worse times doing some stupid errors at times. Overall he played more agressively than i did, except in the third set. I can remember leading 3-1 in the 4th set and getting to 0-40 , 30-40, and then getting broken back, playing really bad in this game with like 2-3 unforced errors.

It's a pity we had to restart 3 times regarding the stamina management, though our chars were pretty equal in this area, i had a tiny advantage at 7-5 1-4 (1 OE bar), then for some reason his game closed/crashed unexpectidly, so we had to restart. During the restart Vlad played more accels than i did until the 1-4 "free points" to gimp his char 1 bar more wich was very fair play from him



When we restarded, i did setup a 5 setter but we only replayed until 4-1 (not the first 5-7) wich was a mistake, cause when we finished the 4th set, we figured out that the last set will have a tie break then. So i rehosted again, a one setter with Tie-break off, but at 6-6, a tie break came up (Is it a bug or is it just not possible to set up only one set without tie ?). So we had to restart again

As you can see our stamina were still equal at the end of the 4th set.



So we can consider no one was ripped off regarding stamina here. Though our chars got several "reloads" thus could finish this match much less tired that they should have.

In the last set, Vlad was serving first. There was 8 breaks until 6-6 can't remember in wich order exactly, but the break conversion numbers are 4/8 for Vlad and 4/11 for me. I think we were both under pressure and starting to get really tired. I completely lost my first serve, with only approx 45% firsts in this set, when i was more around 60% in the previous sets. I remember saving 2 match points at 4-5 15-40 to finally close the score @ 5-5, and then we both hold our serves until the end. I had one break points at 10-10 but couldn't convert it, and finally, Vlad broke and won the match at 11-12 15-40.

That was a great match and very enjoyable to play despite the interruptions. So i have to congrats Vlad for it especially as he was playing Denko and i had some edge with Djoker. I'm not disapointed with such loss, it's always a pleasure to play a crazy thriller like this one He fighted very well when down 1-3 in the 4th and i think it's a key moment, i should have consolidated my break here.

Besides this, we played with the new TE build 98. And it felt very different under low stamina state, i would say much better, we could still hit some (moderate) accels, but our chars were noticeably slower, i can remember we both could finish some point with 0 Instant Energy, using some shoulder accels, and also drop shots (we both used a good bunch of drops) were more effective in these conditions due to the lowered character speeds. So gameplay wise, i think this change is definitely going in the right direction. Though i'm really curious how our overall energy would have ended without interruptions, i'm a bit worried about it

I wish we could have a recovery feature like in the offline mode, allowing to restart a match recovering the score and stamina state, that would be really nice especially for very long matches.

Stats from the match log :



Congrats Vlad for this crazy match and good luck vs Felipe, you'll need it

[spencercarlos]

Elias (Djokovic) def. tdbchess (Djokovic) 6-2 6-1 6-4

That was a quick win vs. an unlucky tdbchess. We were one day behind the deadline and had to play this match, unfortunately for him, he forgot to bring his laptop from work and thus had to play with another computer,
different keyboard, different sensitivity.. So i somewhat played vs an injured tdbchess who made unusual
errors, so the score doesn't reflect his current level at all. This could have been a very difficult match so
i was lucky there. Sorry for your loss in such conditions, i'm sure some good results will come regarding your
recent level in friendlies.

.


Vlad449 (Davydenko) def. Elias(Djokovic) 5-7 6-2 2-6 6-4 13-11

Well, i just played (and lost) the longest marathon i ever played on ITST Tour

2h36 real playing time, 5h11 simulated time

I can't even remember all key moments, i'm burned out . We played at a good level, nothing extraordinary but some consistent level you can find among the 1400-1800 Elo range, We both had our good momentums and worse times doing some stupid errors at times. Overall he played more agressively than i did, except in the third set. I can remember leading 3-1 in the 4th set and getting to 0-40 , 30-40, and then getting broken back, playing really bad in this game with like 2-3 unforced errors.

It's a pity we had to restart 3 times regarding the stamina management, though our chars were pretty equal in this area, i had a tiny advantage at 7-5 1-4 (1 OE bar), then for some reason his game closed/crashed unexpectidly, so we had to restart. During the restart Vlad played more accels than i did until the 1-4 "free points" to gimp his char 1 bar more wich was very fair play from him



When we restarded, i did setup a 5 setter but we only replayed until 4-1 (not the first 5-7) wich was a mistake, cause when we finished the 4th set, we figured out that the last set will have a tie break then. So i rehosted again, a one setter with Tie-break off, but at 6-6, a tie break came up (Is it a bug or is it just not possible to set up only one set without tie ?). So we had to restart again

As you can see our stamina were still equal at the end of the 4th set.



So we can consider no one was ripped off regarding stamina here. Though our chars got a "reload" thus could finish this match much less tired that they should have.

In the last set, Vlad was serving first. There was 8 breaks until 6-6 can't remember in wich order exactly, but the break conversion numbers are 4/8 for Vlad and 4/11 for me. I think we were both under pressure and starting to get really tired. I completely lost my first serve, with only approx 45% firsts in this set, when i was more around 60% in the previous sets. I remember saving 2 match points at 4-5 15-40 to finally close the score @ 5-5, and then we both hold our serves until the end. I had one break points at 10-10 but couldn't convert it, and finally, Vlad broke and won the match at 11-12 15-40.

That was a great match and very enjoyable to play despite the interruptions. So i have to congrats Vlad for it especially as he was playing Denko and i had some edge with Djoker. I'm not disapointed with such loss, it's always a pleasure to play a crazy thriller like this one He fighted very well when down 1-3 in the 4th and i think it's a key moment, i should have consolidated my break here.

Besides this, we played with the new TE build 98. And it felt very different under low stamina state, i would say much better, we could still hit some (moderate) accels, but our chars were noticeably slower, i can remember we both could finish some point with 0 Instant Energy, using some shoulder accels, and also drop shots (we both used a good bunch of drops) were more effective in these conditions due to the lowered character speeds. So gameplay wise, i think this change is definitely going in the right direction. Though i'm really curious how our overall energy would have ended without interruptions, i'm a bit worried about it

I wish we could have a recovery feature like in the offline mode, allowing to restart a match recovering the score and stamina state, that would be really nice especially for very long matches.

Stats from the match log :



Congrats Vlad for this crazy match and good luck vs Felipe, you'll need it

Looking at your match result with Vlad, (and also by making some test myself) its pretty obvious that something is not correct around the roaster.

Davydenko has the same conditioning and stamina than Murray and Djokovic, seriously? and obviously greater than Federer with this roaster. This is not realistic at all, yeah Murray and Djokovic right now are quicker than Roger, but still you consider Davydenko with those numbers this is not right IMO, really back in his prime Davydenko was fit and fast, but Roger at his prime is superior in this too, and Federer is faster and fitter than Davy even today.

Davydenko has 72 power off both wings, but he has way less topspin than Murray and Nole, so he eventually hits harder shots than those two, off both wings no less. Not too difficult to understand why Vlad has a great number of winners than Elias. Seriously?

Davydenko has the same ability as Federer for drop shots 79, and Djokovic has a better dropshot than Federer (81) as well, and not to talk about Murray who has around 96 if i remmember correctly. Now again this is another travesty, especially when we all know how superior Federer's drop shots are in comparisson to Djokovic and Davy, but also in comparisson to Murray, i would even believe that Federer uses the drop shot just as much as Murray does, just as effectively.

I can probably relate to C4ill now in the complaints around the roaster and configuration of some players

[Elias]

Looking at your match result with Vlad, (and also by making some test myself) its pretty obvious that something is not correct around the roaster.


Davydenko has the same conditioning and stamina than Murray and Djokovic, seriously? and obviously greater than Federer with this roaster. This is not realistic at all, yeah Murray and Djokovic right now are quicker than Roger, but still you consider Davydenko with those numbers this is not right IMO, really back in his prime Davydenko was fit and fast, but Roger at his prime is superior in this too, and Federer is faster and fitter than Davy even today.

Well, about Denko stamina, i agree his 79 is probably actually too high, especially as a recent change in TE made accels less tiring if wing power < stamina, wich is his situation, so as a PB, and with 72 power vs 79 stamina, he's tired less quickly than Djoker, Murray, even worse regarding Federer who is a puncher with good power. We'll probably have to adjust this a bit for 1.13.

Davydenko has 72 power off both wings, but he has way less topspin than Murray and Nole, so he eventually hits harder shots than those two, off both wings no less. Not too difficult to understand why Vlad has a great number of winners than Elias. Seriously?

Ah, some experienced player agrees with me about raw ball pace (private joke, thanks for your comment Carlos, though )

Harder, but straighter though, low spin = poor crosses. higher spin allows for a better angle and ball speed with short crosses, and also allows to push the opponent further behind the baseline compared to flatter shots. So there is advantages and drawbacks.

Davydenko has the same ability as Federer for drop shots 79, and Djokovic has a better dropshot than Federer (81) as well, and not to talk about Murray who has around 96 if i remmember correctly. Now again this is another travesty, especially when we all know how superior Federer's drop shots are in comparisson to Djokovic and Davy, but also in comparisson to Murray, i would even believe that Federer uses the drop shot just as much as Murray does, just as effectively.

Well that's another subject, Djarvik is the specialist in this area. Not sure indeed that Murray is the king of drops, but i guess his wings were so weak in early versions that maybe he got this high stat as a compensation, and.. kept it. i can't say.

[VMoe86]

Davydenko has the same conditioning and stamina than Murray and Djokovic, seriously? and obviously greater than Federer with this roaster. This is not realistic at all, yeah Murray and Djokovic right now are quicker than Roger, but still you consider Davydenko with those numbers this is not right IMO, really back in his prime Davydenko was fit and fast, but Roger at his prime is superior in this too, and Federer is faster and fitter than Davy even today.

The goal was never to be 100% realistic, because that would lead to everyone using Djokovic. The goal is to have less and less differences between the characters, especially on the physical aspects of the game. No one here ever complained about our Precision stats before 1.12 (and the differences there were huge) and they were pretty much unbalanced -- it was something we had on our list and done something about it. In the same line we are aware of Stamina and other stats like Lobs, Drop or Counter. Reviewing all Stats for all characters at the same time is a bit too much, though.

Davydenko has 72 power off both wings, but he has way less topspin than Murray and Nole, so he eventually hits harder shots than those two, off both wings no less. Not too difficult to understand why Vlad has a great number of winners than Elias. Seriously?

He has high pace on his shots, but they don't push the opponent back -- they all land in the striking zone of the opponent, while Murray's and Djokovic's shots with their spin push Davydenko quite a bit behind the baseline. The Short Accelerations are weaker the less Spin you have: Nadal has 82mph off a regular acceleration FH, but 76mph off a Short Acceleration FH, while Davydenko has 84mph off a regular acceleration FH, but 74mph off a Short Acceleration FH (and a worse angle). Even with a 80mph regular acceleration FH Nadal still has a 76mph Short Acceleration FH.

Both Florian and I have tested Djoko vs. Djoko, Davy vs. Davy and Davy vs. Djoko (our match-up with Djoko vs. Djoko or Davy vs. Davy is basically 50-50) -- a good Djokovic user will handle Davydenko by using Spin. It is about the right tactics when playing. Davydenko is 10cm smaller than Djokovic, so while in Djoko vs. Djoko one can take spinny shots earlier, with Davydenko you have to back off (otherwise you hit a very weak shot and are done; or your opponent lacks focus and makes errors on this very weak shots).

Davydenko has the same ability as Federer for drop shots 79, and Djokovic has a better dropshot than Federer (81) as well, and not to talk about Murray who has around 96 if i remmember correctly. Now again this is another travesty, especially when we all know how superior Federer's drop shots are in comparisson to Djokovic and Davy, but also in comparisson to Murray, i would even believe that Federer uses the drop shot just as much as Murray does, just as effectively.

See above: On to-do-list. I agree here, Federer should have the better drop shot stat (the current stats here date back to the very first version of the Mod).

[Woowhat]

Woowhat vs Vmoe86 .....interesting match... without new te 2013 will be 5 set match but now..Moe in 4 sets

And Elio fails here.

VMoe86 (Davydenko) defeats Woowhat (Federer) 6-2, 6-1, 6-0

A very solid performance from me, so my minimal goal is achieved, reaching QF. At the start I was a bit nervous, because I've never played against woowhat and a good serving and aggressive Federer can always be very problematic.

Fortunately for me, he was having a very bad day regarding the serve: Only 51% First Serves in and then only 103mph Average Speed on 1st Serve. I had break point in every of his service games and he only held serve once, this would not have been enough against most players. At the beginning he was a bit more patient in the rallies, but I also needed to find my range a bit, so there we had some more longer rallies. He started going more at the net, which I liked, because I could hit some good passing shots.

I got a break for 3-1, he made a rebreak, but I wasn't worried since his serve was not working (for whatever reason). Thus I got away with the first set quickly and started serving in 2nd set, where he immediately broke me a 2nd time. Then I won the remaining games a bit too easily, but he didn't try much anymore.

Yeah, nothing has worked for me in this match. Worst match I played in my short career on tour but it happens. VMoe was too solid in all departments and he dominated from the baseline. I couldn't deal with his strong pace so I tried to change something with net rushing and going for the lines but that was desperation call and it only resulted in large number of passing shots and unforced errors from my side.
All in all, not a nice match to watch but a well deserved victory for my opponent.

Better luck next time, Woowhat! You were the last ballerina standing at AO!

Thanks, good luck in quarterfinals. Ballerina is disgusted with this slow ass plexicushion excuse for surphace and is waiting for faster courts to dominate. Be afraid, be very afraid

[C4iLL]

@Carlos : don't neglect the player behind Davydenko ! I mean Vlad can really be in fire sometimes, he beat me at Shanghai first round with an awesome level.
Even if he seems extremely irregular in his results, that can explain why he did a lot of winners.

My opinion stays indeed the same here : it's not always the character who explains the results, but the guy behind.
People like Clog, AlexJasmins and so on who used Nadal have the level to be successfull with other characters.
Maybe less, maybe more who knows

About the stamina of Davydenko during that match, it doesn't mean anything he was not more tired than Djokovic.
We all see that the stamina could decrease in a totally different way regarding your style. The match between Florian and Cerji who both used Djokovic is a good testimony. One was exhausted, the other was in good shape whereas they have the same stats....
So maybe Vlad managed really well the stamina of Davydenko ?

[eliomelma]

Elias give us the Dmo of your marathon, i am so curious to see from 6-6 of the fifth.......

[Elias]

Elias give us the Dmo of your marathon, i am so curious to see from 6-6 of the fifth.......

Well, sorry Elio but my install was fresh and unfortunately i forgot to setup the autorecord Shit happens

By the way, i have so many TE installs in my computer that sometimes i forget these little things