i'm really not gone

[djarvik]

You concentrating on the wrong things buddy. Forget the scoreline comment... Replace it with "...felt balanced, good rallies, varied depth..." - whatever you want to call it. Just read my answers, not pokes

[Fez]

You concentrating on the wrong things buddy. Forget the scoreline comment... Replace it with "...felt balanced, good rallies, varied depth..." - whatever you want to call it. Just read my answers, not pokes

Now you are backtracking, lying that scoreline was a "poke". Not true. You were dead serious. It just shows you won't be intellectually honest. You're more interested in winning a debate that considering another's ideas.

[Uchiha Muss]

Wow looks like I have to dip my head into this water again.

@Vmoe. 1. If both players have a stable connection. Yes I can deal with that. I play elias don florian regularly and I know what i'm talking about it. I never have the issues with them.
2. If one has bad connection. That's is some weird problem right there. Some games I see ping go down as low as 28ms with going up as high as 150ms. In this case I don't really know what happens except seeing turtles and some period of perfect connection time. I won't say anything on this one.

I simply don't understand what the documentation says at some instants. And trust me, I've read it at least once a month trying to figure the "engine of the game" as to players call it.
4. At least now I know that my movement has nothing to with the delay. I move always at the same speed. ( I highly doubt this is true)

@Pidzi. Dude if you're gonna solve our problem or at least mine, it's not gonna get fixed by "stepping back just a little". I've seen your 2 replays and boy do you play so close to the baseline. Your speed allows you to do that. We're who you call 5m players from the baseline. Again we already play steps beyond your "step backs". And then of course since you get into position earlier than you do have that extra time that we simply can't make.

@djarvik. You have to realize that we've been playing for over 6 months right?. We've seen some big changes such as removal of auto-pos during rallies, little bit of tweaking at the net, roster updates, play hard, clay, grass, and hard surfaces. We play regularly and it's not just lack the lack of sanity that keeps us at our level.
I mean when was the last time you've played a match with all kinds of ping+delay and see at least 20 different players with different game styles? Not recently I'll tell you.

Ok now I'll admit mistakes that I do just to clear things up. Stopping at the right time is the Crucial part of the game. You're still running when the ball was hit? you're gonna have a bad time. That's me. I overrun some balls, hit imperfect shots, choose wrong shots at the wrong time.

AND even more important part of the game. Charging your shots. I basically run to the ball, charge my shot 1st and then put direction. That simply happens naturally. I obviously have at least some direction all the time. I've never seen me hit a shot to the middle. Obviously I've tried running to the ball, and charge my shot as fast as I could and release the button before the ball was hit. I don't know what happened but it wasn't a good idea.

P.S. No idea about deadzone and when it actually kicks into the game.

[Fez]

thanks uchi for filling in my gaps.

Yes, the "step back" solution is absurd actually, considering how far back i already am (something i get criticized for). and yes, djarvik puts us in some little box like we don't have a basic understanding of the game. discussions with him always feel like I'm trying to justify my sanity. Its really irritating. A little respect djarvik for guys who've played over a thousand matches and might have some correct impressions about the game.

For the record, I'm willing to say "Maybe its me." Maybe I am at fault and its not an issue with the game. All I'm asking is for people to say "maybe" what we are talking about has some validity. Maybe. Is this too much to ask?

[djarvik]

You know what both of you have in common? Complete lack of understanding of this:

The Delay is an internal latency which allows Tennis Elbow to run in parallel on your PC and your opponent's one. There's a aiming dead time which lasts half of the Delay, just before you hit the ball. During that time, the game considers you're pressing left (or right) if you were pressing left (or right) just before the start of that aiming dead time ; on the opposite, the game considers you're pressing nothing if you were pressing nothing just before the start of the dead time. Concretely, it means if you press left to aim to the left, and that you release left just before hitting the ball, your aiming won't come back to the center like when you're playing against the computer. So you need to prepare your aiming at the right time because you won't be able to fix an overaiming at the last instant, especially when you play with a high delay. Note that it's also the recommended way to do while playing against the computer, to have a consistent aiming.

No need to question my credentials, there are in tact

[djarvik]

and yes, djarvik puts us in some little box like we don't have a basic understanding of the game. discussions with him always feel like I'm trying to justify my sanity. Its really irritating. A little respect djarvik for guys who've played over a thousand matches and might have some correct impressions about the game.

I am giving you the respect, the courtesy of discussing this with you. Stop making it out as I am not. i am giving as much as you give me. The reason you "feel" (you seem to like doing that) like trying to justify your sanity is because I am questioning your perceived feelings and giving you feedback you don't like. Hardly a reason to say I am not being respectful in doing so. Sure, I like to poke here and there, for fun....feel free to do it back or ignore em

[Fez]

You know what both of you have in common? Complete lack of understanding of this:

The Delay is an internal latency which allows Tennis Elbow to run in parallel on your PC and your opponent's one. There's a aiming dead time which lasts half of the Delay, just before you hit the ball. During that time, the game considers you're pressing left (or right) if you were pressing left (or right) just before the start of that aiming dead time ; on the opposite, the game considers you're pressing nothing if you were pressing nothing just before the start of the dead time. Concretely, it means if you press left to aim to the left, and that you release left just before hitting the ball, your aiming won't come back to the center like when you're playing against the computer. So you need to prepare your aiming at the right time because you won't be able to fix an overaiming at the last instant, especially when you play with a high delay. Note that it's also the recommended way to do while playing against the computer, to have a consistent aiming.

No need to question my credentials, there are in tact

[Fez]

You know what both of you have in common? Complete lack of understanding of this:

The Delay is an internal latency which allows Tennis Elbow to run in parallel on your PC and your opponent's one. There's a aiming dead time which lasts half of the Delay, just before you hit the ball. During that time, the game considers you're pressing left (or right) if you were pressing left (or right) just before the start of that aiming dead time ; on the opposite, the game considers you're pressing nothing if you were pressing nothing just before the start of the dead time. Concretely, it means if you press left to aim to the left, and that you release left just before hitting the ball, your aiming won't come back to the center like when you're playing against the computer. So you need to prepare your aiming at the right time because you won't be able to fix an overaiming at the last instant, especially when you play with a high delay. Note that it's also the recommended way to do while playing against the computer, to have a consistent aiming.

No need to question my credentials, there are in tact

You are absolutely right. And I still don't after reading it 3 times.

[Uchiha Muss]

You know what both of you have in common? Complete lack of understanding of this:

The Delay is an internal latency which allows Tennis Elbow to run in parallel on your PC and your opponent's one. There's a aiming dead time which lasts half of the Delay, just before you hit the ball. During that time, the game considers you're pressing left (or right) if you were pressing left (or right) just before the start of that aiming dead time ; on the opposite, the game considers you're pressing nothing if you were pressing nothing just before the start of the dead time. Concretely, it means if you press left to aim to the left, and that you release left just before hitting the ball, your aiming won't come back to the center like when you're playing against the computer. So you need to prepare your aiming at the right time because you won't be able to fix an overaiming at the last instant, especially when you play with a high delay. Note that it's also the recommended way to do while playing against the computer, to have a consistent aiming.

OMG this is so easy. How could I be so ignorant of this foolproof method of aiming!
I just read 8 lines of text and I'm playing so much better. Delay doesn't even matter anymore, I'm sooooo good at this game. People can't beat me because I know how to read 8 lines of text and solve my own problems like adults.
Thanks djarvik, if it wasn't for you i'd still be playing
EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AS BEFORE, NOTHING HAS CHANGED.