Barcelona Open Banc Sabadell

[Elias]

Eliomelma & me tried to play our match today.

We tried for almost 1 hour, but the Djokovic - Nadal matchup was completely impossible to play (desync on serve, or if not, always a desync on second or third shot, no way to finish a point).

So we did a lot of tests, changing, courts, and players.

We could play without any desyncs , or almost, some other match-up, like
Federer vs Davydenko, Nadal vs Nadal. But EVERY time we included Djokovic in a match up, we got desynched all the time. This including restarting the game to get clean etc... even rebooting.. Djoko vs. Djoko didnt worked either.

So, we couldn't play our match. i proposed Elio to use another char (Fed as he's used to), but as he prefers using Nadal too, we will try to play the match tomorrow or in 2 days if possible. if tournament host allows the delay and the character change for sure.

We both hosted for the same results. We used very last TE build, sam patch (without paks & build*) & ITST 1.03.

Honestly i'm really fed up with this desyncs issues and i think i will probably abort playing TE tour until something stable is released to play.

[C4iLL]

Yep it's really disappointing because when there's no desync, it's really amazing to play with tbe balanced characters / sam patch (better than the normal version I think).

And it's really better than TS4

[Elias]

Well, we played finally played our match today, Nadal vs Nadal, with still some desyncs (some of them after looooong rallies damn..).
i won this match 6-1 2-6 6-3. Elio fully deserved this second set, i think the third set may have been more difficult but the match was very long and Elio i think had to go.

It was so difficult to hit winners with Nadal that we played some exhausting hypnotizing rallies, with some error in the end from one of us.. i even played some S&V because it was too much boring playing like this. Still this char can hit some winners, moving up in the court, taking the ball earlyer , but it's too much difficult compared to the real Nadal and other roster chars wich have flat shots, the spin in TE really impairs power so much. Some better balance between spin & power should be found for Nadal, his balls needs some more speed i think.

[VMoe86]

I just played my QF against kyuuji -- he was Djokovic and I was using Nalbandian. I wasn't expecting a lot, because I knew from my offline experience on Master 1 against Djokovic with Nalbandian that I most likely wouldn't have a chance. So it was: 1-6, 2-6. Quite a few games went to deuce in the first set, I had break points, but he ran away with the set quickly. In the second set it looked as if I was being fed another breadstick or a tasty bagel (Nalbandian wouldn't have minded!), but I played better the longer the match lasted.

The biggest problem (offline and online) is Nalbandian's speed: He is too slow to follow up quickly on short balls and put them away. Of course he should not defend like Djokovic, but the speed difference was too much.

Both of us volleyed quite well.

In Madrid I will be using the even slower Berdych. I won't be that kind at the Grand Slams.

EDIT: Desyncs were present when I was serving (he hosted). We tried with me hosting the match and there were desyncs when he served.

[eliomelma]

Well, we played finally played our match today, Nadal vs Nadal, with still some desyncs (some of them after looooong rallies damn..).
i won this match 6-1 2-6 6-3. Elio fully deserved this second set, i think the third set may have been more difficult but the match was very long and Elio i think had to go.

It was so difficult to hit winners with Nadal that we played some exhausting hypnotizing rallies, with some error in the end from one of us.. i even played some S&V because it was too much boring playing like this. Still this char can hit some winners, moving up in the court, taking the ball earlyer , but it's too much difficult compared to the real Nadal and other roster chars wich have flat shots, the spin in TE really impairs power so much. Some better balance between spin & power should be found for Nadal, his balls needs some more speed i think.

Yes too long rallies, one of this was 56 shots! The third det don't was very good but watching the stats, i see that for me it isn't so bad,i was 2-0 and 0-30 for me on his serve, i win 26 points and Elias 31, but my % of serve was 63% vs 74%, a key stat. Congrats to him, this time a can win a set, next time i will do better.

Set 1- Eliomelma vs Elias 1-6:
https://rapidshare.com/files/2927545258 ... as_1-6.dmo

Set 2- Eliomelma vs Elias 6-2:
https://rapidshare.com/files/1068290039 ... as_6-2.dmo

Set 3- Eliomelma vs Elias 3-6
https://rapidshare.com/files/395064585/ ... as_3-6.dmo

[Elias]

The biggest problem (offline and online) is Nalbandian's speed: He is too slow to follow up quickly on short balls and put them away. Of course he should not defend like Djokovic, but the speed difference was too much.

Both of us volleyed quite well.

In Madrid I will be using the even slower Berdych. I won't be that kind at the Grand Slams.

Right.. you can't do much more with Nalby vs Djoko as 20% difference of speed is too important.. and though Nalbandian is not even the worst char in the roster.

That's why i don't agree with the Tiers idea, or the difference should be way more slight than it is now.

Also the theory that top players will use lower tier chars is in my opinion not valid.. maybe this could be true if the difference were more tight. But just one example : there is only one TE veteran among us, what are his choices ? => Simon, Djokovic, Federer. self explanatory ?

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[VMoe86]

To me it is pretty obvious what matters in Tennis Elbow: Good or great strokes (greater or equal to around 80% in every stroke stat), speed and counter stat over 80% and the lower the top spin stat the better. That's the reason why characters with such stats are a good choice (Federer, Davydenko, Djokovic, Simon for example) and that's why I did well with Kohlschreiber. Dolgopolov is better than Nalbandian.

I cannot call a game or a character within the game balanced if the character choice influences the result from losing 2-6 to winning 6-1 (switching from Nalbandian to Federer against Djokovic on Master 1).

I think the game favours certain styles, so that some characters are just useless.

[djarvik]

OK, lets take it to the "Players" thread and break it down, shall we?

[Elias]

Elias vs. Ugadalou 7-6 6-1

Another matchup we couldn't play because of desyncs wich never let us finish a point using Nadal / youzhny, even after changing courts, retsrting the game, etc.. no way.. like djoko - nadal in the precedent round.

So we agreed to change chars to play our match. Uga stayed with Youhzny and i used Monfils.

It was a pretty nice match, he played a solid first set wich i finally won in the TB, after several breaks from both sides (2 i think), he also saved two set points @ 4-5. The mere difference in this set was mostly the first serve % higher on my side and more consistent returns. After this set Ugadalou released the pressure and couldn't hold it, doing more errors.



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