Playing TE on TV

[inseedious]

After 2012 US Open (I lost R16 vs Elias, 7-6 at the 5th set), my iMac 27 hard disk cracked, and after switching to my actual Macbook Air 11 I never reached that good level (because of various factors, but I'm sure that playing on a 11'' screen doesn't help of course).
I'm thinking about using my 42'' Panasonic GT30 as a monitor just during TE matches. I have no doubt on this tv's performances, as I chose him thanks to his near 0 imput lag and its perfect colors, but I'm afraid that there will be some deadly imput lag due to the following setup:
Macbook Air---->mini display port to hdmi adapter---->hdmi cable---->TV.
Has anyone tried a similar setup, being able to give me a feedback? The adapter doesn't cost a lot (10-20€), but I want to be sure before trying... also because I'm using Windows 7 on Bootcamp, so it won't be so easy.
P.S. I sent my iMac 27 to my family so I can't just repair it.
Thanks

[VMoe86]

A Thunderbolt display has a response time of 12ms, which is why I am hesitating to buy an iMac. I could try playing on my Panasonic, which is also said to have very low (= near zero) input lag (all gamers look at that ). Here it would be only HDMI to TV or HDMI to AV Receiver and from there to TV.

[inseedious]

In fact, my question was about the imput lag due to the cable and the adapter, fortunately the plasma helps with his 0 imput lag.

[Martan]

Ah, thats why I am so shite. I am playing on my 11" MacBook Air

Anyway there is so high responce on thunderbolt display? Really?

[Don_]

Input lag and response time - these are two different things.
Input lag is delay from this what you are pressing on keyboard, till time when your monitor will show it on its screen.
Response time is lowest time, which monitor needs technically to create 2nd frame and show it as sharp (not blurred) image.

CRT has perfect input lag - its lag free.
12ms input lag its perfect value for non CRT monitor and its usually only in poor quality screens, TN LCD monitors.
There is almost no TN LCD screens in TV's, there are usually IPS or PVA panels which has higher input lag, almost never lower than 20ms, average its around 30-40ms in game mode (every image processing are turned off there to minimalize input lag).

CRT has also perfect response time (not measurable). Its mean it is offering SHARP image even during fastest motion.
LCD/LED is worst here, during fast motion it is losing sharpness, to avoid this need some image processing like inserting frames etc but it causes input lag >100ms, so its ok only for TV - to watching, no gaming. Plasma has around 3x better response time than LCD/LED (I mean real values, not on paper - response time 0,001ms is not exactly true) and don't need usually any image processing unlike to LCD/LED.
Anyway your plasma GT30 doesn't have 0ms input lag or even close, it has 24ms - which is very very good as for TV, not like monitor. But I think its enough low to play in TE or even FPP games without any, even little discomfort. My LED has 33ms and Its very good, enough for any action games on PS3. I tried also FPP PC games on this tv, 33ms is a bit too high to call it perfect, but was OK, no problem to play, delay was barely noticeable.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasoni ... 281070.htm

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[VMoe86]

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-tx-p42gt30b-p42gt30-201103281070.htm

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Thanks for this site, finally I have good information on my TV (16 ms input lag for my TV, which I think is really good; also explains why I haven't noticed much difference to my CRT before when switching two and a half years ago). You are of course right about response time vs. input lag.

[inseedious]

Input lag and response time - these are two different things.
Input lag is delay from this what you are pressing on keyboard, till time when your monitor will show it on its screen.
Response time is lowest time, which monitor needs technically to create 2nd frame and show it as sharp (not blurred) image.

CRT has perfect input lag - its lag free.
12ms input lag its perfect value for non CRT monitor and its usually only in poor quality screens, TN LCD monitors.
There is almost no TN LCD screens in TV's, there are usually IPS or PVA panels which has higher input lag, almost never lower than 20ms, average its around 30-40ms in game mode (every image processing are turned off there to minimalize input lag).

CRT has also perfect response time (not measurable). Its mean it is offering SHARP image even during fastest motion.
LCD/LED is worst here, during fast motion it is losing sharpness, to avoid this need some image processing like inserting frames etc but it causes input lag >100ms, so its ok only for TV - to watching, no gaming. Plasma has around 3x better response time than LCD/LED (I mean real values, not on paper - response time 0,001ms is not exactly true) and don't need usually any image processing unlike to LCD/LED.
Anyway your plasma GT30 doesn't have 0ms input lag or even close, it has 24ms - which is very very good as for TV, not like monitor. But I think its enough low to play in TE or even FPP games without any, even little discomfort. My LED has 33ms and Its very good, enough for any action games on PS3. I tried also FPP PC games on this tv, 33ms is a bit too high to call it perfect, but was OK, no problem to play, delay was barely noticeable.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasoni ... 281070.htm

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Thanks a lot for the answer, however I bought the adapter and used this tool to find out the total lag from the macbook to the plasma and the delay is about 13ms:


This delay is very low but I have to decide yet if I will play on this tv because this is not a "mirror" delay, this is not a common disadvantage like online latency. Also considering that I am a pad user, I'd have another little disadvantage vs keyboard users. 13ms is a very low handicap, but TE is almost all about reflexes and even before using that tool i felt there was a little delay and at first i was afraid it was about 100ms