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[tigerofintegrity]

Even though I play TE these days instead over TS4, there are several things that prevent me from competing in an online tour here.

The desynch problem is the biggest issue. I did try playing TE online before and have experienced the whole desynch issue, an experience that put me off wanting to play TE online again. Having to play half the rallies twice, sometimes when it's deep into a point, was just downright confusing and unenjoyable. Seems like this is still a common problem on the tour here and I'd find it hard to put myself through that kind of torture.

Another gripe I have is the constant need to update TE. That itself is fine but everytime that happens, it requires a fresh install of everything, the game along with Sam's Patch and then the ITST files. Currently I'm just playing offline and I don't bother updating the game, maybe once every few months when I feel it's long enough but I don't think I'd fancy the idea of going through that every week.

It's a shame really there seems to be so much effort required to play this online on this tour because it's a really good game and I'd love the competition. Maybe one day things will get better and I'll be more motivated to join up.

[djarvik]

Look what the cat drugged in! How are ya?!

Check out the latest ITST patch, we have worked out all the desync issues. Should be all set now. Give it a shot!


Hope all is well with you.

[eliomelma]

Even though I play TE these days instead over TS4, there are several things that prevent me from competing in an online tour here.

The desynch problem is the biggest issue. I did try playing TE online before and have experienced the whole desynch issue, an experience that put me off wanting to play TE online again. Having to play half the rallies twice, sometimes when it's deep into a point, was just downright confusing and unenjoyable. Seems like this is still a common problem on the tour here and I'd find it hard to put myself through that kind of torture.

Another gripe I have is the constant need to update TE. That itself is fine but everytime that happens, it requires a fresh install of everything, the game along with Sam's Patch and then the ITST files. Currently I'm just playing offline and I don't bother updating the game, maybe once every few months when I feel it's long enough but I don't think I'd fancy the idea of going through that every week.

It's a shame really there seems to be so much effort required to play this online on this tour because it's a really good game and I'd love the competition. Maybe one day things will get better and I'll be more motivated to join up.

No desync problems and full installation requires only 5 minutes with new light Itst patch (90 mb)!

[L Sanchez MD]

It's definitely much better with the new ITST patch.
If TE updates (which I agree, it does too often), you just uninstall, install the new TE, install the ITST patch. I can do it in 5 minutes.

[VMoe86]

It is actually absolutely fine to only install the Tennis Elbow Patch when an update is released unless manutoo makes drastic changes which require changes in the Mod, too.

[Elias]

It's definitely much better with the new ITST patch.
If TE updates (which I agree, it does too often), you just uninstall, install the new TE, install the ITST patch. I can do it in 5 minutes.

It updates often usually after a major update, like 1.0d , 1.0e, for bug fixes then Manu releases several build for bug fixes, but then usually it gets more quiet for some time after I still prefer to see such good support than one updade a year with no improvements like DMT community had to suffer last years

[L Sanchez MD]

It's definitely good to get bug fixes - it's just annoying to update when you've got a mod installed which takes ages to install! Thankfully it doesn't now.

[L Sanchez MD]

It is actually absolutely fine to only install the Tennis Elbow Patch when an update is released unless manutoo makes drastic changes which require changes in the Mod, too.

You mean you can update the game without any issues to the mod?

[VMoe86]

You mean you can update the game without any issues to the mod?

Exactly. At worst an outdated file from the Mod will be replaced by a new one, but then that file should have never been included in the Mod in the first place.

[SlicerITST]

So anytime the game goes to a new version like from d to e you would need a reinstall but any build fix of for example e you just have to check the ITST forum if there where any issues with files being overwritten? If so you just have to re-apply the ITST patch. That is correct right?

[Elias]

Shoud work or not, depending the build changes, can't be 100% sure really. For example we have the gamesys.ini modded for animations purposes, wich is included in the pak03. If a new build add new entries/variables in this files, our modded file will not reference those values, and the game will miss them, so we may then update the mod gamesys.ini itself to add the entries required.

So this really depends what is updated in the game.

[VMoe86]

Yes, it always depends on the Update, but typically changes within a version are not that drastic. The safest way is a fresh install, but so far I've always installed the TE Patches until June 2nd and had the same amount of Desync-plagued or Desync-free matches as anyone here until then.

[manutoo]

As stated by VMoe86, there's usually no new feature addition except on major updates (ie: v1.0d, v1.0e, but not the Builds in between).
And in all cases, if you install only the patch, you should be good to go. At worst you'll miss a few new stuff, but anyway it'll require a Mod update to fix that, so you don't need to bother about it, till the Mod is actually updated.
But if all the Mod files are in the Pak3, then updating to the latest Build by only installing the official patch will always work fine and the result will be same than doing a clean reinstall of the game + Mod, but way faster (except if I mess up the Patch packing ).

[Ary1g]

None of my suggestions here have ever been about making rules to fit my game, Djarvik!

I beg to differ, ALL of your suggestions were driven by your inability to deal with the game, in one shape or another. Whats more, ALL your suggestions failed. This tells me you have issues dealing with your failure and you have acceptance issues, as well as self esteem issues.

This was a simple and quite obvious joke, to most, but not you. I say obvious not because it obviously was a joke, but that your post, with rules suggestions, again, is very obvious.

Stop trying to change ITST. If any change will happen, it wont be driven by you, that I can guarantee you personally.

Now tell me how I insulted you again. Truth hurts my friend.

To summarize my reasons to wanting rule changes during my time on ITST: I don't like the arcade aspects of TS4 and I never liked them. Hence, I believed this site was interested in discussing things that would "blur the line between gaming fantasy and tennis reality". Which was the basis of all my suggestions. Of course, I never wanted to play with Welsh either, so basically, with no rules to TS4, I would never have any chance at all here at ITST, especially after the last TS4 patch.

I'm quite happy with my Rome tournament now, reaching the quarter-finals. However, I was really fed up again after my R32 French Open Pro match, which you already know the details about. It all comes down to the same things, why bother spending time scheduling matches with people to then just have the same experience you get on WT? It just doesn't make sense to me. Still, I'm going to give it another go. My worst surface is clay, so hopefully I'll be able to beat short cross abusers on grass and hard court.

Reason I got insulted by your post is because I just get really fed up with people saying that I want to change the game to fit my style of play. Especially the last suggestion which I like to play a lot, however, I have still lost in most of my test matches. Anyone who is regularly on the forum would take that joke yes, but new people, who don't know me, would get a wrong impression of me. That's why I got fed up about it.

Face it. The new regular tour rules would have never been even tested if I haven't been so active towards it here. I got a lot of people's support(and a lot of hate ) and made a lot of people active in rules discussions. Yes, my rule suggestions wasn't the best, but hey, I was new to the site and I see it as an ongoing project towards perfection which we discussed A LOT, and then the managers finally found some rules that "worked". I don't believe at all that ITST would have gotten a rule change without me. It seemed like you more or less had abandoned every hope of finding rules that could work until just recently. I'm very happy with all my suggestions. Everyone brought up great discussions here on the forum and I've had a lot of fun arguing

[C4iLL]

The new regular tour rules would have never been even tested if I haven't been so active towards it here.

What is true is that you were actively militating for these new rules. In my opinion, it's good to have people like you on forums, always raising new ideas, even if sometimes, they are unrealistic or useless. That make the forum living