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[L Sanchez MD]

If they are so few people playing TE, it's just because the tour is not promoted efficiently. Not because the game isn't good.

That is spot on.

Just FYI, I will send out a mass email to our members again, once Elias and Vmoe tell me they are ready with the patch. Another thing we can do is promotional video for youtube. We can have all the characters hit their signature shots/plays (from our roster) and create a collage/intro with that.

Sorta like this: Federer hitting inside-out forehand winner, Gasquet hitting a backhand winner, Isner hitting an Ace, DePo hitting 2-3 forehands in a raw and wins the point...etc... Put nice music over it.

I can write the music if you want.
I can also record a video of John Isner's actual signature shot: "backhand halfway up the net"

[Ugadalou]

If they are so few people playing TE, it's just because the tour is not promoted efficiently. Not because the game isn't good.

Aside from popularity and promotion issues, someone once mentioned that if a player is on the ManaGames online tour,they cannot join any other tours.

If that's true it's a real shame and could be responsible for keeping many TE players away from the ITST tour.

[eliomelma]

If they are so few people playing TE, it's just because the tour is not promoted efficiently. Not because the game isn't good.

That is spot on.

Just FYI, I will send out a mass email to our members again, once Elias and Vmoe tell me they are ready with the patch. Another thing we can do is promotional video for youtube. We can have all the characters hit their signature shots/plays (from our roster) and create a collage/intro with that.

Sorta like this: Federer hitting inside-out forehand winner, Gasquet hitting a backhand winner, Isner hitting an Ace, DePo hitting 2-3 forehands in a raw and wins the point...etc... Put nice music over it.

Yes, that i said, the video promotional idea is beautiful, but maybe we can upload others short videos, many videos, so many videos=many viewers, i found itst on youtube after watching a Pogagna's video! So make many videos with tags tennis Elbow Itst tour and who search Tennis Elbow found accidentally many our videos!And our patch make the difference!

[Fifa Tee]

If they are so few people playing TE, it's just because the tour is not promoted efficiently. Not because the game isn't good.

I have been playing Tennis Elbow for a while now and have made significant improvements, but i still dont think i am at the required level to be a strong force on the tour... The game is awesome.. I'm sure there are alot of people who have the game, like me, but just do not feel they are good enough yet to play on tour..

[Elias]

If they are so few people playing TE, it's just because the tour is not promoted efficiently. Not because the game isn't good.

I have been playing Tennis Elbow for a while now and have made significant improvements, but i still dont think i am at the required level to be a strong force on the tour... The game is awesome.. I'm sure there are alot of people who have the game, like me, but just do not feel they are good enough yet to play on tour..

You shouldn't hosnestly think like that, that is just preventing you to get the fun you deserves with a great tennis SIM. It's not a shame at all losing some matches or not being a top player @ TE, even if you were in the top @ TS4, not at all. TE gameplay has a greater depth, that's why learning curve is longer, and rewarding in the long run, it's precisely what makes a simulator good.

The same goes with pure skill based sims like DMT, wich i can remember i had to play several month before having a chance to reach a quarter final in the online tour, though in the meantime, i still played first rounds, made a lot of contacts/sparring partners, had great fun and could probably improve my game faster.

No one has to be n°1 after his first sign up. Just come aboard and have fun

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[eliomelma]

Yes there are many players that had many losses in the tour, strong losses, but as Elias says continued to signups and match by match raised their level without see the results. i have played many and many hours against cpu in World Tour (World tour is awesome)but online there are many different match-tactics and it is the real test!

[SlicerITST]

If they are so few people playing TE, it's just because the tour is not promoted efficiently. Not because the game isn't good.

I have been playing Tennis Elbow for a while now and have made significant improvements, but i still dont think i am at the required level to be a strong force on the tour... The game is awesome.. I'm sure there are alot of people who have the game, like me, but just do not feel they are good enough yet to play on tour..

It would really be a shame if there where a lot of people thinking like that and thus not signing up. The tour can really use some extra sign ups these first few months. It is not the same as with a big game like TS4. There you get massive amounts of players playing the game initially. So there are always players interested to play even if they are not good enough yet. For this game we gradually have to build up our reputation. The tour is the most interesting if we can host multiple tournaments a week. So support the tour by playing on it please.

[VMoe86]

i have played many and many hours against cpu in World Tour (World tour is awesome)but online there are many different match-tactics and it is the real test!

Indeed, online is quite different to offline. It applies to every videogame, but in Tennis Elbow I think the difference is even larger. The AI hits a very clean ball, which makes it a lot easier (at least for me) to time my shots well, too. Online you will see more strange shots due to mistiming and they put you in very uncomfortable positions to do something with the ball. One has to learn how to deal with these situations and it is only possible online.

[eliomelma]

I have been playing Tennis Elbow for a while now and have made significant improvements, but i still dont think i am at the required level to be a strong force on the tour... The game is awesome.. I'm sure there are alot of people who have the game, like me, but just do not feel they are good enough yet to play on tour..

If you want know your level i think there are 2 ways: the first and more important is that you should begin to play friendly matches against TE tour players, the second(for me) less sure is if you are able to play in world tour mode at Pro 6-7-8 difficult, i think that 90% of players of this tour are to this level. In effect for example my friend Goroger1 plays at Pro1 difficult in World tour, and there is no match between us, but with Vmoe86 that can play to pro 6-7-8-10 levels, there are many beautiful matches. Kyuuji plays at incredible 1!(only one) and in fact against him i lose 6-2 6-3 6-4 at max.

[eliomelma]

If they are so few people playing TE, it's just because the tour is not promoted efficiently. Not because the game isn't good.

I have been playing Tennis Elbow for a while now and have made significant improvements, but i still dont think i am at the required level to be a strong force on the tour... The game is awesome.. I'm sure there are alot of people who have the game, like me, but just do not feel they are good enough yet to play on tour..

It would really be a shame if there where a lot of people thinking like that and thus not signing up. The tour can really use some extra sign ups these first few months. It is not the same as with a big game like TS4. There you get massive amounts of players playing the game initially. So there are always players interested to play even if they are not good enough yet. For this game we gradually have to build up our reputation. The tour is the most interesting if we can host multiple tournaments a week. So support the tour by playing on it please.

YES!!! the aswers is this. who think that is not enough good signup to tour and hosts can host multiple tournament as challangers for newers players.So they raise their level by playing against human players and the tour grows.

[SlicerITST]

If they are so few people playing TE, it's just because the tour is not promoted efficiently. Not because the game isn't good.

Aside from popularity and promotion issues, someone once mentioned that if a player is on the ManaGames online tour,they cannot join any other tours.

If that's true it's a real shame and could be responsible for keeping many TE players away from the ITST tour.

This rule does seem to be in effect yes. No idea if it is actually being enforced though. I think the game can only benefit of having ITST on the scene. We can reach quite a large number of tennis game enthusiasts because we have had so many people on our site over the years. I really hope more and more of them will start to get interested in this game. The release of the ITST patch should really spark up some interest.

Next to that the ITST tour adds something fresh to the community by using the Sam's patch. This can only add to the replay value of both tours. And the more people play the game the more they will be talking about the game to others. Sharing their interest with potentially new buyers.

I really doubt the enforceability of this rule anyways. There is nothing stopping them from signing up under a different gamertag and email.

Anyway, i do not believe it is much of an issue at the moment. I really doubt we are well known amongst that community yet. We can concentrate on getting new members in from our own database and by using the promotion tools as mentioned in this thread already. Whatever ideas you guys have feel free to mention them. If they are good ideas we will use them to our advantage.

ITST has no issues for anyone playing in a non-ITST tour by the way.

[SlicerITST]

If they are so few people playing TE, it's just because the tour is not promoted efficiently. Not because the game isn't good.

I have been playing Tennis Elbow for a while now and have made significant improvements, but i still dont think i am at the required level to be a strong force on the tour... The game is awesome.. I'm sure there are alot of people who have the game, like me, but just do not feel they are good enough yet to play on tour..

It would really be a shame if there where a lot of people thinking like that and thus not signing up. The tour can really use some extra sign ups these first few months. It is not the same as with a big game like TS4. There you get massive amounts of players playing the game initially. So there are always players interested to play even if they are not good enough yet. For this game we gradually have to build up our reputation. The tour is the most interesting if we can host multiple tournaments a week. So support the tour by playing on it please.

YES!!! the aswers is this. who think that is not enough good signup to tour and hosts can host multiple tournament as challangers for newers players.So they raise their level by playing against human players and the tour grows.

I remember us hosting Monday challengers for the TS3 tour to give new players a chance to play against better players and still be able to play challengers where they could actually compete.

That would probably be a good idea for this tour as well.

[C4iLL]

Fifa Tee is just a TS4 coward, let it go

More seriously, I began the tour with 0 skill, I lost several games without scoring a game I think, but I talked with people at the end of each matches, and I understand things about the gameplay.

It's really because of these discussions I increased a lot my level : because that helped me to train in the good direction.

- About the promotion, as I play sometimes in online normal mode, I often talk to non-itst guys, and tell them about the existence of the ITST tour.
A lot of people tell me they are playing on the Managames Tour. But the difference here, is that we don't play with any preview/helps.

We should then promote the tour on that aspect : it's a SIM tour, whether the managames tour is an arcade one.

[Elias]

But the difference here, is that we don't play with any preview/helps.

We should then promote the tour on that aspect : it's a SIM tour, whether the managames tour is an arcade one.

Good summary.

No preview / helps, and a more realistic character stats scheme. Simulation controls is beginner friendly enough, still preserving a good depth. But Elite controls brings even more gameplay depth and will probably be a great setup when this Tour will grow and the average level increase in the future.

[djarvik]

Yeah, the initial idea was:

Futures, Challangers and 250 tournaments - Simulation controls

500, Masters and Grand Slams - Elite controls.


The next step is to fill a 32 draw weekly. When that happens, we will got challengers at draw 16. And when we have both full (16 and 32) we can introduce futures as well.

This way we will have all levels covered.