Nadal's backhand..

[JasonBourne]

Hello there,

ok after playing alot of matches, I can confirm that nadal's backhand is realy weak. The strokes are way too "floaty" which gives the opponent enought time to charge and aim with powerfull shots. It's not possible to accelerate even on soft balls.. You can just outplay nadal by attacking his backhand.

I know his backhand is not very strong, but its not this weak either..

PLs fix this I can't play any further, 80% of my games are losses and my elo went from 1700 to 1200 and going down. I can't even win any 800 elo players anymore so something realy is wrong here.

This must be balanced, because his serve is not very strong either (which is realistic), and his forehand is good but not that supergood (which is realistic too) so far so good, + that weak backhand = Nadal is out of bussiness.

It's been nothing but fustration and I realy cannot enjoy this game anymore.

Pls don't suggest me to pick another player.

Thanks
Jason

[marko279]

Hello there,

ok after playing alot of matches, I can confirm that nadal's backhand is realy weak. The strokes are way too "floaty" which gives the opponent enought time to charge and aim with powerfull shots. It's not possible to accelerate even on soft balls.. You can just outplay nadal by attacking his backhand.

I know his backhand is not very strong, but its not this weak either..

PLs fix this I can't play any further, 80% of my games are losses and my elo went from 1700 to 1200 and going down. I can't even win any 800 elo players anymore so something realy is wrong here.

This must be balanced, because his serve is not very strong either (which is realistic), and his forehand is good but not that supergood (which is realistic too) so far so good, + that weak backhand = Nadal is out of bussiness.

It's been nothing but fustration and I realy cannot enjoy this game anymore.

Pls don't suggest me to pick another player.

Thanks
Jason

I dont agree... Nadal is very strong, and his backhand top spin is not so bad. Look at real life, most of players attack him on that side cause that is one weak point of his game.

Can i ask how did you get to 1700 elo? I had a case when i was winning like crazy with Ivan Dodig. Then, i suddenly started losing. I figured that i need a change. And it worked. Try mixing and playing with other characters.

In my case, i just got fed up playing with one character, and i was enjoying the game and winning again when i switched to another players. Now i am enjoying Robredo

[JasonBourne]

Thanks for replying,

I had 1700 in 1.15, mostly with nadal lol.. I like to play with federer also, I could play with him for a change

[marko279]

Thanks for replying,

I had 1700 in 1.15, mostly with nadal lol.. I like to play with federer also, I could play with him for a change

NP, man. Yeah, try with federer a bit, i am sure you will regain points. I had the same situation. Just got fed up, nothing more. And when i changed to Robredo, i was like reborn

good luck, man.

[C4iLL]

With Nadal I think I could have make a great performance at AO if I wasn't stopped by lags etc, I really reached a good level with him.

He's tactically limited but his FH is so strong that you can destroy other guy's gameplan with it. The key with Nadal is to use his speed turn around your BH to hit a FH everytime it's possible + hitting short accels on the runs with both wings. To do that, you need a high confidence

For all these reasons, Nadal is really hard to master I think. He's quite easy to anticipate when you're his opponent. Maybe the BH is a little bitt too weak too, but as people spam that side, you can anticipate and hit a FH instead and take the lead on the exchange. Personally I would vote for a little increase of the BH on next update, but something like 1 or 2 points max in specific stats (don't know if it would be power, precision, consistency)

[JasonBourne]

Personally I would vote for a little increase of the BH on next update, but something like 1 or 2 points max in specific stats (don't know if it would be power, precision, consistency)

This.

[campa100anni]

I think that the biggest problem with Nadal's backhand is that it's too much "closed". His movement should be a little bit more "open" in order to actually hit the ball even when you are not standing absolutely close to it. With his forehand is almost impossble to miss a ball because he can catch almost every shot coming to his left side but with the backhand when you are trying to reach a ball on the run, for example, 7 times out of 10 you are gonna miss it. Playing Nadal's Backhand - Right Handed's Forehand rallies can be very frustrating sometimes because you know that in 3 or 4 shots you are gonna miss the ball trying to hit a cross court acceleration (which requires you to hit the ball with the racket and not "with the body"). Otherwise you are gonna shank it and send the ball out which basically will lead you to the same result. The only way to hit a safe backhand when you are hitting on the run is hitting a sliced backhand but I've talked other times about the useless of sliced shots in the game.

[C4iLL]

Yep campa, the anim is hard to master, but with practice you can manage to hit great short accel on the run from backhand when you're used to him. Definitely it's a character which requires skill to be used well, but even so, it's a tactical nightmare to solve when your opponent spam your BH... Which requires even more experience and tactical sense than with other characters.

Anyway, trust me, in the interest of the tour, it's better to have an average Nadal, than a monster, no balance issues at least

[campa100anni]

yes, thats for sure. Nadal, if used well, is devastating from the forehand side. If he was easy to use as well everybody would pick him. I hate and love to play against him: I hate it because everytime that he steps away from his backhand and puts himself in position to hit the forehand I feel like I'm done every time. I love t because, at least, I have an easy tactic to follow: just aim on his backhand for the whole match despite, sometimes, try to take the opponent on surprise going to the forehand (once or twice per set ).

[JasonBourne]

I think that the biggest problem with Nadal's backhand is that it's too much "closed". His movement should be a little bit more "open" in order to actually hit the ball even when you are not standing absolutely close to it.

You maybe right.



I've looked at some nadal bh's and yea he does strech his backhand out more then in the anim. Also this BH is one I used where he streches him the least, somethimes he even streches more out. If this could be fixed, this might fix Nadal afterall.

I will inform Lucian about it and hope he'll fix it.

[C4iLL]

Nice screen man, it's really the same position ^^
Indeed his BH anim may be too short

[JasonBourne]

Thanks m8