The higher CPU Difficulties

[o Sinna o]

Man the CPU Skill on pro for example against Fed has nothing to do with a Challenge.

In my eyes this is just a Difficulty to nerve a Player than supporting his natural human Skills.

The Problem on this Level is that the CPU not only has a unnatural Movement, but rather creating unnatural Shots realating to the Situations also.

You even see it in a few simple Warmuprallies that you can hit the best Accelshots to open the Court for a Winner, but the CPU gets every Ball back and especially how the CPU handles such Situations is the next cheek.

The same on Returns, you get consistent Accelreturns smashed over the Net which would been hit by Aggasi in his Best Times maybe 10 Times in a five Set Match.

Ok one good thing is that you can practice the craziest Rallieshots against this Difficulty, but killin this unnatural Movement and Hits with the Player Almagro I am just using, can't be meant serious.

You know I already play a few Matches against skilled ITST Players but this is like playing against a Wall without the Possibility for a Winner, simply cause you can't pass a Wall. XD

Do I cry around to early or is it really so freaking hard?

[o Sinna o]

Ok I am crying around to early again I think, but it's for sure very hard, so much is guaranteed.

Cause I am expecting to much of me for the few Days I am playing and to beat a hard CPU in this Game you have mainly understand the few Possibilites you got.

And you have to play damn consistent like Gulbis, äh Djarvik? XD

I tell you Guys, if I beat this Difficulyt consistent I will by a Nightmare and Challenge for eveybody on Tour. XD

So much is sure. ^^

[o Sinna o]

Ok just made my first Servicegame against Fed on pro with Almagro. XD

[Ugadalou]

But I still think he is better usually, regarding the level he plays again CPU (I think I read Master).

I think It's not really relevant, the CPU has some flaws and patterns you may be used to, for exemple you may have experienced that when you hit a strong b1+b2 serve on the wide side you often get a strong return or return winner (way too much of those..), but curiously the CPU is not cumfortable when you send him a wide kick second serve and you then get a soft return instead ? i'm almost always using a soft b2 kick serve against CPU because of this..

By the way, i never use myself a difficulty setting higher than Pro 10 for training or test purposes. With the stats we are using it's difficult to hit pass the CPU, i feel like the AI is tweaked to play against higher stats, ball speeds, and stronger serves, than those we are using.
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[manutoo]

o Sinna o,
as Ugadalou, and I'll add this to be super clear : the ITST roster isn't tuned to be played against CPU in high level ; usually, you'll lack power compared to the intended official gameplay (ie: in the World Tour).

[o Sinna o]

all right manutoo and ugadalou.

thx for the clarification.

[L Sanchez MD]

manutoo - these guys are talking about ITST characters against other ITST characters - not in the world tour, I believe.

Anyway, playing against the AI on hard difficulty is impossible.
They return far far too well, and can't be wrong-footed, not to mention being a wall.

I used to play against Pro 6, but with one of the updates (might have been the movement one), the AI became almost impossible - mainly due to return of serve, I think. I can rally with it fine.
I play on Junior 5 now, lol. Otherwise it's not fun.

[o Sinna o]

Hehe Sanchez good to hear you understand what I am talking about and yes I am talking about ITST Mod Characters only.

It's like you said.

The CPU on pro Difficulty just produces Shots non stop of Situations humans couldn't do so consistent and extremly over a whole Match as it would be nothing. But the CPU on this Level can ofcourse, cause it's based on a simple Code, that works like a Machine oncourt.

And the Footwork on this CPU Level is also unnatural.

I mean we will see what the Future bring and I am sure, even the highest Level of Gaming a few of you Guys reached in the ITST right now, has still Room for a even more extreme human Oncourtperformance, but I saw you know what I meant.

[o Sinna o]

With a even more extreme Performance a few of you Guys and maybe I later will perform, I mean for example that this Game gives you all Possibilties as a human, to play the Tennis (Elbow) Match of your Life, with a very high Level of Concentration and extreme Coordianation.

A Match like Murray yesterday played against Milos Raonic on the real US Open for example.

Making a strong Opponent look like a Beginner who has no oncourt-weapons against you I mean for example.

[manutoo]

L Sanchez MD,
yup, I know that, thus my comparison with the official World Tour..!

And to be even more clear : the game is supposed to be played with power skills at about the same percentage than the speed skill & with the autopos on medium, which gives a good balance between attack & defense.
With ITST roster, the power skills are lowered, which lowers attack, and the autopos is set to slow, which lowers the defense ; the CPU is affected by the power lowered, but not by the autopos (which is a helper for human only), thus the CPU is defending too well, making it very hard to play against once you reach the Pro level.

[Algo4]

So that was it, now I know why I was getting bageled pretty consistently on pro 10

[L Sanchez MD]

L Sanchez MD,
yup, I know that, thus my comparison with the official World Tour..!

And to be even more clear : the game is supposed to be played with power skills at about the same percentage than the speed skill & with the autopos on medium, which gives a good balance between attack & defense.
With ITST roster, the power skills are lowered, which lowers attack, and the autopos is set to slow, which lowers the defense ; the CPU is affected by the power lowered, but not by the autopos (which is a helper for human only), thus the CPU is defending too well, making it very hard to play against once you reach the Pro level.

So the main problem is the autopositioning?


Anyways, I just played a set (on world tour - career mode, that is - not ITST characters) and I played against Hewitt (junior 2, lol!) on clay with a custom character, with OK stats....
I won 7-6, but it was really a struggle. If I hit an acceleration serve, he would hit a return winner almost every time. I had to use the weakest serve with topspin to start the rally.
At the end, he had 9 return winners, and I had none. That's on junior 2!!

It is on the same version of the game that the ITST mod is applied, so probably the mod has somehow messed up the world tour, even though it's not using ITST characters (all the courts and character models are as default).

[manutoo]

L Sanchez MD,
yup, and actually, low autopos also lowers your attack, coz less centered ball = slower strike.

And yup, Counter players have a bit too good returns. If you play with the bounce preview, it's much easier to catch them, though, but some will still be winner. Don't forget to quickly step back after your serve to give you a bit more time to catch the return.

[L Sanchez MD]

L Sanchez MD,
yup, and actually, low autopos also lowers your attack, coz less centered ball = slower strike.

And yup, Counter players have a bit too good returns. If you play with the bounce preview, it's much easier to catch them, though, but some will still be winner. Don't forget to quickly step back after your serve to give you a bit more time to catch the return.

I always step back after the serve, but the amount of return winners is way way too high.
Considering I never hit any, and their serves aren't even good at that level.
It's strange.

Put it this way: my serve is far more effective against good quality players on the ITST tour.... strange.