Demo Feedback

[Cro Morgan]

Probably something we all (should) agree on, it's IMPOSSIBLE to grade the game based on a demo and a few minutes of play. At first glance, yeah, GST has some glaring flaws, but I'm betting the game is much deeper (in short, agreeing with BluudyEEfingaz's comments).

Long term, I'm guessing the game will be a ton-o-fun to play (in the end, much more important than inaccurate player tendencies and crap groundstroke animations).

[Rob ITST]

it's IMPOSSIBLE to grade the game based on a demo and a few minutes of play.

Yep. I also don't think there is a chance in Hell that they will release the game with 1 handed backhands for player like Nadal and Djokovic - so, I'd say this is definitely a "demo" and no where near a finished game.

[L Sanchez MD]

it's IMPOSSIBLE to grade the game based on a demo and a few minutes of play.

Yep. I also don't think there is a chance in Hell that they will release the game with 1 handed backhands for player like Nadal and Djokovic - so, I'd say this is definitely a "demo" and no where near a finished game.

The release is very soon!! I will be very very surprised if more than the smallest changes are made to the game.

I recall the difficulties being changed from TS4 demo to release, but nothing like animations.

[djarvik]

Keep in mind that the demo is likely older then it seems. It had to me made and submitted to Microsoft some time ago, in order for it to be accidentally released a few weeks back.

Most of the wrong animation issues are simple triggers that got overlooked. For example slice shots are now being performed with two hands by both of the guys, I dont think this was intentional.

As of right now, the game seems to me rather good when playing with buttons. Dynamic and fast pace.

I think they really need to make the stick shot count. Make them more precise and more powerful, or more spin. It seems like the buttons are simpler and have the same effect - thus very few will even give the stick controls a real shot. EA needs to make it more rewarding...

[Murmeltier88]

Yes, when you look at the Top Spin 4 demo for example, I could not see, that they changed something about the animations.

Everyone was complaining about Federers serve animation for example before and noone did anything about it.

I was so excited about the game, because I had many expectations but now...I am just expecting the worse, at least, nothing more then a number 2 after Top Spin 4. (Eventhough it is also not the perfect tennis game for me. For me the perfect tennis game is made out of real animations, sound-effects, playstyles and behaviour of the players, real sounds and atmosphere of the stadiums and on the court and at least the Top 15 players of each tour WTA/ATP and a real career mode with the original format of playing it. Some little things like injuries during a match, real stamina effects, raquet breaks, learning AI (reacting to your playstyle)

But it seems, like it is too hard to make such a game but I don't understand why. It should be a game with the sounds and presentation of Grand Slam Tennis 2, Dream Match Tennis and of the Top Spin Series.

I will buy Grand Slam Tennis 2 anyway...For me thats clear
But I guess, I will not be totally happy about the game afterwards. Or maybe, there will be a big surprise and everything will be different and better - who knows.

[Cro Morgan]

Yep. I also don't think there is a chance in Hell that they will release the game with 1 handed backhands for player like Nadal and Djokovic

Hopefully not, but it does beg the question: Why were they like that in the first place?

[KluddKalle]

Well, I have definately come around. Been playing on superstar using the buttons (never once used the slice though) and had a lot of fun. Can really see the fun playing against friends, looking forward to trying that. Plus, I read the manual for the game and it seems to have some really great features.

[VillaJ100]

Yep. I also don't think there is a chance in Hell that they will release the game with 1 handed backhands for player like Nadal and Djokovic

Hopefully not, but it does beg the question: Why were they like that in the first place?

Its worrying for sure. Its almost as bad as getting a player's laterality wrong, anyone who watches even ONE MATCH of any professional will know after what type of backhand they use.

BTW they should just do away with a FH slice animation. Seriously, the shot does not exist. the slice button/stick move thing whatever should only be applicable to serves and the backhand side. The only way it should be included is if Santoro is in the game (who probably hit 1/750 groundstrokes a FH slice) or if they threw in william renshaw or someone like as some mini game at the start (like i always thought it would be cool as when the game is loaded, you are taken not to the menu but to warple road, 1877 and you are Spencer Gore serving for the match at the 1st Wimbledon. would be fun!)

[Q-Spin]

Plus, I read the manual for the game and it seems to have some really great features.

Like upload photo and put your own face in the game,

OR

download created players from friends and play with or AGAINST them?

[L Sanchez MD]

Yep. I also don't think there is a chance in Hell that they will release the game with 1 handed backhands for player like Nadal and Djokovic

Hopefully not, but it does beg the question: Why were they like that in the first place?

Its worrying for sure. Its almost as bad as getting a player's laterality wrong, anyone who watches even ONE MATCH of any professional will know after what type of backhand they use.

BTW they should just do away with a FH slice animation. Seriously, the shot does not exist. the slice button/stick move thing whatever should only be applicable to serves and the backhand side. The only way it should be included is if Santoro is in the game (who probably hit 1/750 groundstrokes a FH slice) or if they threw in william renshaw or someone like as some mini game at the start (like i always thought it would be cool as when the game is loaded, you are taken not to the menu but to warple road, 1877 and you are Spencer Gore serving for the match at the 1st Wimbledon. would be fun!)

Why would you do away with it, even if it's rare?

BTW, I just saw Federer hit a FH slice winner against Kudryatsev
BTW, Santoro hit almost ALL FH slices - he very rarely hit a drive FH, much more often hit drive backhands.
BTW, Dolgopolov uses FH slice all the time.
BTW, nah that was my last BTW.

sup?

[SlicerITST]

I played the game yesterday. I didnt think i would like it but i do.

The negative points seem to big:

Bad animations
Weird slice shot
Net play overpowered
When reaching for the ball on the run your player transports to a good hitting position.

But still this game is fun to play. Online will be quite frustrating though. I see no way to have an edge over the average cheeser out there. But against a fair opponent it might be great.

[KluddKalle]

Plus, I read the manual for the game and it seems to have some really great features.

Like upload photo and put your own face in the game,

OR

download created players from friends and play with or AGAINST them?

Yeah, I like the sound of those. If I remember correctly there was info about an option of putting created pros in tournaments and career mode as opponents. But I may have dreamt that...

[VillaJ100]

Yep. I also don't think there is a chance in Hell that they will release the game with 1 handed backhands for player like Nadal and Djokovic

Hopefully not, but it does beg the question: Why were they like that in the first place?

Its worrying for sure. Its almost as bad as getting a player's laterality wrong, anyone who watches even ONE MATCH of any professional will know after what type of backhand they use.

BTW they should just do away with a FH slice animation. Seriously, the shot does not exist. the slice button/stick move thing whatever should only be applicable to serves and the backhand side. The only way it should be included is if Santoro is in the game (who probably hit 1/750 groundstrokes a FH slice) or if they threw in william renshaw or someone like as some mini game at the start (like i always thought it would be cool as when the game is loaded, you are taken not to the menu but to warple road, 1877 and you are Spencer Gore serving for the match at the 1st Wimbledon. would be fun!)

Why would you do away with it, even if it's rare?

BTW, I just saw Federer hit a FH slice winner against Kudryatsev
BTW, Santoro hit almost ALL FH slices - he very rarely hit a drive FH, much more often hit drive backhands.
BTW, Dolgopolov uses FH slice all the time.
BTW, nah that was my last BTW.

sup?

Lol I just think its a bit pointless I guess.

BTW check out the new Australian open trailer, have a lovely shot of nadals 1HBH down the line

[L Sanchez MD]

Watch Niculescu right now if you want. She's slicing at least 30% of her forehands (with one hand, not like Santoro with two).

It's not pointless Just unusual. She's up a break in the 3rd against Cornet... must be doing something right!

[VillaJ100]

Watch Niculescu right now if you want. She's slicing at least 30% of her forehands (with one hand, not like Santoro with two).

It's not pointless Just unusual. She's up a break in the 3rd against Cornet... must be doing something right!

Haha, pffft what are these coaches teaching these days. Although it is sometimes fun to watch a junkballer, just because you never know whats coming next. Dog is probably the closest to that around today. If you wanna be at the very top of the game though its pretty poor as a strategy goes, Santoro was just a freak. Brad Gilbert has a good book about just dogging it in a match, called 'winning ugly', worth a read.

Thinking about it it does show how far tennis has come on. 20 Years ago you could have done well with just a slice backhand.