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Postby omidje90 » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:36

Hi !

I got an question about topspin returning. I heard yesterday from my opponent for the first time since i play TS4 that he thinks that my returns are glitchy cuz i am topspin returning. I don't like to do 'unfair' things, if its true, i don't do it on purpose. So i would like to know if players have tips for topspin returning without making it glitchy, because i like the topspin returning the most of all returns..

Besides this, i know there was some complaining about my play in the past, but i never heard something about glitchy returning at all.. If somebody playt me and thinks i did it, please say it so i can work on it. I am honestly trying to play as realistic as possible. The thing is that i like the topspin return the most and i want to return that way without being glitchy. At the other side i am not sure that i am glitchy returning because its the very first time i am hearing this from an opponent after about 200-300 matches topspin.. :shock:
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Postby I_Zooloo_I » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:49

do you see your opponent walk back very often? if it happened with only 1 guy it might aswell be his fault, for example if he aims for a short crosscourt too early, it can make the player walk back
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Postby omidje90 » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:54

Honestly i never saw it happen yet.. but he was freaking out and wanted an walkover from me, with 1-1 sets.. I told him we can rematch if he'd like because i never heard something about my returning. I don't to like have problems for an videogame so i have no any problems but this kid was 100 % sure that i played unfair on purpose and gets mad..

So i am thinking about my returns now, but i i can't find an solution yet.. I just like the topspin return the most and specially with my relative low reflex is the best option for me.. so what can i do? I want to return topspin without doing it glitchy, it have to be possible i guess..? At the other side its good possible that its his own fault that he waits to long to step in..?
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Postby I_Zooloo_I » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:14

if you dont see him walk back behind the line you have nothing to worry about, your returns are fine
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Postby omidje90 » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:37

i guess so then.. :)
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Postby Murmeltier88 » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:19

Oh come on....

You are talking such a crap here.

I recorded the whole match and you did it all the time.

I have to step back after each return you made... I guess, the ones, where I did not have to step back were an accident ;-)

I heard before that you are unfair and read it also in the Forum so don't lie here and say, you never did that ;-)

On the ITST-Tour, there are rules which should be read before you compete in the tournaments. Otherwise, if you don't know, what a glitch return is, and use it, even if its by accident or its because you think you are allowed it to do. Its simple, you have to be punished, thats my oppinion. It was the first thing I did here, to read the rules!!!

Besides I know people who are saying, that you played glith returns against them also....

So don't blame me and making this up here to push people on your side.

I recorded the match and sent it already to the host and you did glitch returns 15 times when I served and of course also in important situations.

But we will see, what happens when the host saw the video, its proof enough to see, that you were using glitch returns!
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Postby xXpOwerPlayXx » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:51

Hey chill down. I have the same problem as Omidje. When i do a topspin return its a glitch return sometimes. Some people complained to me about that. I was thinking about it and now i am afraid to use topspin returns as otherways my opponent will say im a cheater. I don't even do these glitchreturns on purpose. So Murmeltier don't think we don't know the rules and like to cheat for a win.
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Postby omidje90 » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:54

Friend, i don't really care so much about this videogame, its just not nice the way you are threating people. I never heard something about glitchy returns, and i've not noticed it either. If the video prooves to the host that i actually did it against you, it was by accident. I am still not 100 % sure if its glitchy though. Thats the reason that i opened a topic to ask if its actually possible to return topspin without being glitchy or it isn't.. I am so friendly that after all ur madness and nonsense to be normall and asked u what did u like, a rematch or a 3th set and you said that u wanted a walkover win, I think its very immature the way u are acting.

I am ok with everything as long as i enjoy playing this videogame. I am not letting me getting upset by this videogame, but u can't claim an walkover win like that. I told you just to rematch and i will look out for glitchy returning, it was 1-1 in sets so it seems fair in my opinion.. But if you like to make problems you should go your way.. :shock:
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Postby Murmeltier88 » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:05

Lol...

Thats ridiculous, now you even change the things which have been said and talk about it in wrong circumstances...:?

When you don't know, what a glitch return is, you have to read the rules!!! But you should read them before you are playing.
I think most of the people, that played against you, did'nt say anything because either their defeated you anyway or they just don't know either, what a glitch return is....

I never used a glitch return in our match, there you could have seen, how it has to be played.

But ok, I know persons who are saying the same about you, so I don't worry about that.

Its not the first time, that you behave unfair here on the tour, which can also be read here in the Forum in Threads and many people said to me, that I should be aware about you. ;-)

The video has been sent, I was really angry yesterday because of the way you played, because without those returns it would never come into this situation, but it's ok for me, because the host has the video now and we will see, what will be decided.
Thats for me the last thing I can say here.
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Postby omidje90 » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:20

sure do your thing
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:35

Murmeltier88 wrote:Lol...

Thats ridiculous, now you even change the things which have been said and talk about it in wrong circumstances...:?

When you don't know, what a glitch return is, you have to read the rules!!! But you should read them before you are playing.
I think most of the people, that played against you, did'nt say anything because either their defeated you anyway or they just don't know either, what a glitch return is....

I never used a glitch return in our match, there you could have seen, how it has to be played.

But ok, I know persons who are saying the same about you, so I don't worry about that.

Its not the first time, that you behave unfair here on the tour, which can also be read here in the Forum in Threads and many people said to me, that I should be aware about you. ;-)

The video has been sent, I was really angry yesterday because of the way you played, because without those returns it would never come into this situation, but it's ok for me, because the host has the video now and we will see, what will be decided.
Thats for me the last thing I can say here.


Lol I play against omidje daily my guy never walks back when he returns me, it just has to do with yourself this guy doens't even know how to use glitch return cuz he would tell me if he did it is very weak what you are saying here


"I think most of the people, that played against you, did'nt say anything because either their defeated you anyway or they just don't know either, what a glitch return is.... "

Like I say I play him daily, I know about glitch return, he often returns with topsin trough the middle, but I never walk backwards! once again it's your own foult don't complain here and give people a bad name for your mistakes, tell me who also complained about his glitch returns? If someone should have noticed it by now it would be me right.. what zooloo said is probably true you just press backwards to early.. stupid you.
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Postby Firderis » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:36

Of course glitch returns can happen by accident @powerplay, but it seems suspicous if they always happen continously or during big points. I played Omidje a few times during tournaments, in our matches he glitch returned very often, especially when big points were played.

He even complained about me glitch returning (although I did not, but that's not the point). I guess someone who is using this term is well aware of what it is. So, it is kind of strange reading such a topic from him.

Nevertheless, discussing this is in public is useless, as only a few can judge things happened. I am glad Murmeltier made a video about that.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:45

Firderis wrote:Of course glitch returns can happen by accident @powerplay, but it seems suspicous if they always happen continously or during big points. I played Omidje a few times during tournaments, in our matches he glitch returned very often, especially when big points were played.

He even complained about me glitch returning (although I did not, but that's not the point). I guess someone who is using this term is well aware of what it is. So, it is kind of strange reading such a topic from him.

Nevertheless, discussing this is in public is useless, as only a few can judge things happened. I am glad Murmeltier made a video about that.


I wonder if the 'glitch return' is the mistake of the returner or the server, I never had any problems with these kind of returns...
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Postby omidje90 » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:47

Firderis wrote:Of course glitch returns can happen by accident @powerplay, but it seems suspicous if they always happen continously or during big points. I played Omidje a few times during tournaments, in our matches he glitch returned very often, especially when big points were played.

He even complained about me glitch returning (although I did not, but that's not the point). I guess someone who is using this term is well aware of what it is. So, it is kind of strange reading such a topic from him.

Nevertheless, discussing this is in public is useless, as only a few can judge things happened. I am glad Murmeltier made a video about that.


Mate, u can say whatever u want, but i didn't complaint to your playstyle, or said that u play glitchy.., but say whatever you want to say but thats definately not true..
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Postby omidje90 » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:52

DennieFR1908 wrote:
Firderis wrote:Of course glitch returns can happen by accident @powerplay, but it seems suspicous if they always happen continously or during big points. I played Omidje a few times during tournaments, in our matches he glitch returned very often, especially when big points were played.

He even complained about me glitch returning (although I did not, but that's not the point). I guess someone who is using this term is well aware of what it is. So, it is kind of strange reading such a topic from him.

Nevertheless, discussing this is in public is useless, as only a few can judge things happened. I am glad Murmeltier made a video about that.


I wonder if the 'glitch return' is the mistake of the returner or the server, I never had any problems with these kind of returns...


And we played about 200 matches aginst each other..
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