Topspin returning

[Murmeltier88]

No, its not only because of this, thats the point...

I never pre press after serving lol. When someone plays a "good" glitch returns, the player moves automatically far, far behind the baseline....
You can press what you want then, it has just no effect. The player will move backwards anyway...

But okay, I am seeing, no matter what you try to discuss or to explain here it has no use, it happened something between 2 persons, and everyone knows better somehow. So I will shut up and wait for the result of the video then.

P.S: Of course, it was teamplay. Oh my god...lol. Its funny that YOU have to say that, since your real life friend Dennie called and judged me stupid here, and he even doesn't know me at all or even saw the match or the situation...So what dou you call teamplay? But of course I can understand, that real-life friends defend each other....

But in one thing, he was right that I am stupid, because I replied here in this thread and making explanations to everyone since it was not necessary and ended up in a childish game, who was right and who wasn't....

[OuiMr BersonBANNED]

I never pre press after serving lol. When someone plays a "good" glitch returns, the player moves automatically far, far behind the baseline....
You can press what you want then, it has just no effect. The player will move backwards anyway...

My players never moves backwards.

[omidje90]

I never pre press after serving lol. When someone plays a "good" glitch returns, the player moves automatically far, far behind the baseline....
You can press what you want then, it has just no effect. The player will move backwards anyway...

My players never moves backwards.

mine neither.. And i know other players that are also saying that its not bothering them.. So i am not sure of this whole glitchy thing actually is an cheat..

[DennieFR1908]

I played Omidje a few times during tournaments, in our matches he glitch returned very often, especially when big points were played.

He even complained about me glitch returning (although I did not, but that's not the point). I guess someone who is using this term is well aware of what it is. So, it is kind of strange reading such a topic from him.

No one ever mentioned you played glitch returns? Come on...

Yes, of course, you are absolutely right.
Glitch Returns are ALWAYS the fault of the Server, thats why it is called Glitch RETURNS. Yes, finally we have the answer

The glitch return is because the server pre press when the return is deep.
So it's the fault of the server, you're right.

Just what I tought as well! glitch return is just a misunderstood situation. It is the servers own foult cuz your moving backwards it was what I was saying from the beginning Now I read on this topic no one answerd omidje his question and we only argue but I think I did it right away....

[DennieFR1908]

No, its not only because of this, thats the point...

I never pre press after serving lol. When someone plays a "good" glitch returns, the player moves automatically far, far behind the baseline....
You can press what you want then, it has just no effect. The player will move backwards anyway...

But okay, I am seeing, no matter what you try to discuss or to explain here it has no use, it happened something between 2 persons, and everyone knows better somehow. So I will shut up and wait for the result of the video then.

P.S: Of course, it was teamplay. Oh my god...lol. Its funny that YOU have to say that, since your real life friend Dennie called and judged me stupid here, and he even doesn't know me at all or even saw the match or the situation...So what dou you call teamplay? But of course I can understand, that real-life friends defend each other....

But in one thing, he was right that I am stupid, because I replied here in this thread and making explanations to everyone since it was not necessary and ended up in a childish game, who was right and who wasn't....

Hey I shouldn't say you where stupid, just where anoyed you blamed this guy for nothing giving him a bad name becouse in my opinion it is your own fould. I don't defend him if I tought he was wrong I wouldn't even react I only say I play him very often he also uses deep topspin shots trough the middle and no probs..

p.s. does anyone ever got banned or something for this so called "glitch return"?? It would be sooo sad lol since I now realize it's the servers fould and not returner.

[djarvik]

I never pre-press and I get glitched returned on. So that is not the fault of the server.

[DennieFR1908]

Of course, maybe they can also happen in the same way if you do not double tap the button. Yeah it might be not necessary to make these returns. So I am really sure, that they can also happen, without double tapping.This was only my way of doing it.

Look at my quotation please! You should read more carefully. I didn't say that they ONLY CAN HAPPEN by using double taps! Where did I say that?!
I said IT CAN happen on this way, it does not have to be like this because there are still other ways of doing so.

I also play Top Spin 4 since it has been released so I know, what a glith return is, and what is not.

You sadly played glitch returns during our match, and that will be my oppinion forever about the match that we played..., if you did it by accident or not, I might be not good to judge about that.

But it's just the truth, that in fact, you played those returns, what you can also see in the video.

Why do you think no one even KNOWS how to execute a glitch return? All he does is just returning trough the middle.. what's so special about that?? Why can you hit glitch return with topspin shots sometime and sometimes it doesn't work??? It just doesn't make any sense do those so called glitch returners use an special extra button or something?? lol ofcourse not it just makes no sense at all.

[DennieFR1908]

I never pre-press and I get glitched returned on. So that is not the fault of the server.

But that's your oppinion, I NEVER get glitch returned, I also never heard omidje complain at having it. Omidje also used deep topspin returns against tigerofintegrety he didn't had any trouble with it either. Mr Berson also never has trouble with this he sais. Becouse it's the way you see it doesn't mean it's true, you are almost talking about it like it's a fact what you say.

[Alex-4487]

well i just played murmeltier88 and it was a fair and good match hes very good with his setup but i managed to scrape through was a really really hard match. and i didnt see 2 much gltich returns but happened now and then from both sides by accident but was really fair

[djarvik]

I never pre-press and I get glitched returned on. So that is not the fault of the server.

But that's your oppinion, I NEVER get glitch returned, I also never heard omidje complain at having it. Omidje also used deep topspin returns against tigerofintegrety he didn't had any trouble with it either. Mr Berson also never has trouble with this he sais. Becouse it's the way you see it doesn't mean it's true, you are almost talking about it like it's a fact what you say.

It's not an opinion, it is a fact notice that I am not accusing anyone and not participating in this conversation. I just saw a statement that I know is not true, so I felt the need to point it out.

Bottom line, the only one who is able to control Glitch Returns is the returner. Server has no say in it. Whether it is by mistake, on purpose, because of lag, or because of a certain combo of buttons. "Something" is causing this to happened and the only party having any control over it is the returner.

[Ali-Iqb93]

I started to learn more about glitch returns since last two months.. But I just want to ask one question... Even if the returner do a glitch return is there any guarantee that the glitch return will help the returner to win that point??? I have noticed that sometimes I glitched returned and I still lost that point and sometimes I was glitched returned by my opponents but still I was able to win that point.. Soo u see that there is no guarantee that glitch return will help you win a point.. It's a 50/50 chance on who will win the point, the glitch returner or the server.. It was just my opininion nothing personal

[I_Zooloo_I]

yes but for a good server there should be more than 50% chance to win the point

[Likos86321]

I ve played both players and with me they were fair and square and triangle


About the glitch return, i have to agree with dennie, berson e.t.c . I played like 200-300 matches and the number of times that i have been glitch returned are counted to my one hand. I mean im number 1 in the world, a lot of people want a win against me. Im pretty sure they must have tried to glitch return me and couldn't do it lol . Or they are just super fair against me

I don't know if its my style of play that "affects" that, but i always take the ball early or on the rise, not later than that, except when i want to disrupt my opponents timing. Other thing is i always "hug" the baseline, except when on defensive mode

[tigerofintegrity]

And I agree with Likos, Dennie etc. too. I almost have never had to move back from my opponent's returns even if they do use topspin returns on me. I never pre-press either and like Likos, I don't really stand that far back so early in a rally, only if I'm pushed into defensive mode. Maybe it is the way some people play that makes them more prone to glitch returned. Not necessarily the returner's fault in my book.

[omidje90]

I never pre-press and I get glitched returned on. So that is not the fault of the server.

But that's your oppinion, I NEVER get glitch returned, I also never heard omidje complain at having it. Omidje also used deep topspin returns against tigerofintegrety he didn't had any trouble with it either. Mr Berson also never has trouble with this he sais. Becouse it's the way you see it doesn't mean it's true, you are almost talking about it like it's a fact what you say.

It's not an opinion, it is a fact notice that I am not accusing anyone and not participating in this conversation. I just saw a statement that I know is not true, so I felt the need to point it out.

Bottom line, the only one who is able to control Glitch Returns is the returner. Server has no say in it. Whether it is by mistake, on purpose, because of lag, or because of a certain combo of buttons. "Something" is causing this to happened and the only party having any control over it is the returner.

I understand that you are not participating in this topic, but my question to you is if you already changed your mind about it. As far as i can see, all the topplayer from the tour are telling here that they are not bothered by 'glitchy'returning at all, neither am i. Honestly, i still dont know what it is because its never happened to me. I think the rule is nonsense..