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Postby I_Zooloo_I » Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:54

you will always have a slow gameplay against lycos or other good defensive baseliners, except from times to times if they switch to a more offensive attitude, cause they will never give you a ball you can hit hard ;)

would be the same if you play him on regular tour
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:58

I was about to say! There is nothing to be ashamed of in this result. The reason the game seemed slow is because you used an All around player like a Defensive basleiner. You should have been hugging that baseline and looking to move forward and cut off his time. He probably Control - shoot you into long rallies, which being an all arounder you want to avoid when playing DB.

I say you did mighty good with this Fortis. Want the ball to travel a bit faster? Look at Lopez.
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Postby Murmeltier88 » Mon, 05 Sep 2011 22:07

Thank you :-)

Yes that could be. I think I stayed too much at the Baseline all the time and even when the court was opened wide I did not rush to the net.

I think I am also not good in moving forward to the net....

Maybe I should change to a defensive Baseline-Player too? Maybe NAKAMURA is the better choice for me then? :?
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Postby Likos86321 » Mon, 05 Sep 2011 22:10

Warm-up Tournament Hard MSS R32 Likos(Nakamura) def Murmeltier88 6-2, 7-6

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Murmeltier88 played great, especially in the 2nd set, where he pushed me to a tiebreak. In tiebreak it was easier than the 2nd set it self. i won 7-2.

One advice to Murmeltier88: when you attack and you see me off balance, try to attack the net to finish the point. See my statistics over the net? i was approaching the net a lot because you gave me the chance to do it so. You were off balance most of the times and i took advantage of it; even with 51 volley :wink:
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Postby edlglide » Mon, 05 Sep 2011 23:07

Played with Fortis against Lopez and lost 5-7, 6-2, 6-2.

Playing with Fortis is frustrating -- I think I'm going to try someone else next match. It's just incredibly difficult to finish off a point with him, even when hitting nice angled shots with perfect timing they were run down and hit back to me, usually putting me on defense. I like attacking the net, and Fortis has a 60 volley skill, but even when hitting perfect volleys they were almost never put away; balls just did not have enough pace. I don't really understand it, because his power is right in line with my regular men's player, and I don't have any trouble putting away points with him.
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Postby Tamthewasp » Mon, 05 Sep 2011 23:35

Edglide yes our match was good I tried to put up the photo of the stats but im not sure how too. Your net play was gd although you did fail to put away so many points as did I. Lopez is a good player even with low bh I managed to put away a fair number of points with it.
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 05 Sep 2011 23:44

edlglide wrote:Played with Fortis against Lopez and lost 5-7, 6-2, 6-2.

Playing with Fortis is frustrating -- I think I'm going to try someone else next match. It's just incredibly difficult to finish off a point with him, even when hitting nice angled shots with perfect timing they were run down and hit back to me, usually putting me on defense. I like attacking the net, and Fortis has a 60 volley skill, but even when hitting perfect volleys they were almost never put away; balls just did not have enough pace. I don't really understand it, because his power is right in line with my regular men's player, and I don't have any trouble putting away points with him.


Try this:

djarvik wrote:Go behind him with Slice volleys. If you want to put away into the open court use B volley. IF you are not using SV guy then I suggest you forget about Flat volleys. They are great for mid height balls in transition to the net, but if you are playing with All arounder and your goal is to finish rather then setup - then I would not use them much.

Slice volley is your control volley, it will come back to you most times. They key is to make sure it comes back with enough height so you can do a put-away volley. For example if you go with BH down the line while approaching the net, then you cover the down the line pass by following flight path of the ball, be ready to hit one of the two volleys: 1. Put-away B volley if opponents comes back down the line. He will have to hit over the higher part of the net and the ball will be high enough for you to kill. 2. Control volley to the same corner. If he is attempting to pass you cross court, control slice volley either deep or short to the same corner. If your approach down the line was short, then likely your opponent is inside the court - go for a control volley long into the corner at his feet. If your approach was deep, go for a short control volley.

If you get passed - you coming to net at the wrong times or your approach is not good enough.

Control approaches against faster opponents, to give yourself a bit more time to get to net, hard approaches against slower ones to cut off their timing and reach.

Approaching the net on a cross court shot is harder then down the line.



Give a shot to Fusman. Don't look at the strokes, they are more solid then they appear behind good serving.
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Postby Murmeltier88 » Mon, 05 Sep 2011 23:52

edlglide wrote:Played with Fortis against Lopez and lost 5-7, 6-2, 6-2.

Playing with Fortis is frustrating -- I think I'm going to try someone else next match. It's just incredibly difficult to finish off a point with him, even when hitting nice angled shots with perfect timing they were run down and hit back to me, usually putting me on defense. I like attacking the net, and Fortis has a 60 volley skill, but even when hitting perfect volleys they were almost never put away; balls just did not have enough pace. I don't really understand it, because his power is right in line with my regular men's player, and I don't have any trouble putting away points with him.


Hehe, I really do think that I know, what you are talking about ;-)

It was somehow frustrating too, because sometimes, you have the feeling, you can control the rallye but just cannot finish it...hehe....

But I guess, we are just no good finishers hehe.
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Postby Tamthewasp » Tue, 06 Sep 2011 00:04

I sent u an email djarvik of the stats can you post them please
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Postby Murmeltier88 » Tue, 06 Sep 2011 00:32

:-)

Oh my good...

I cannot believe it, I won a match with FORTIS.....

I won 6/0, 6/0 against LOPEZ (Tamthewasp)...It was a good match.
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Postby tigerofintegrity » Tue, 06 Sep 2011 00:44

Just had my match with Firderis and match stats look like this:

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Overall it was a really fun match. Fortis seems to suit my style of play well and I just stayed patient in a lot of rallies and waited for a chance to counterattack. Firderis played well but he made the mistake of trying to outrally me instead of coming in more to finish points off. He had a hard time getting shots by me because of that.

I think if you want to play Fortis, you have to be a patient player. He's not the type that has a huge weapon to power through games so you will often have to grind it out, which I don't mind. He also has a decent enough serve to maintain an advantage when serving well so overall I like this player.

Also, it's nice to see people talking about and experimenting with different tactics, play styles and players to see which combination suits them the most. :)
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Postby Murmeltier88 » Tue, 06 Sep 2011 00:52

:-)

I wish you all the best of Luck against my master Likos in the second Round...... :D
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Postby tigerofintegrity » Tue, 06 Sep 2011 01:09

Murmeltier88 wrote::-)

I wish you all the best of Luck against my master Likos in the second Round...... :D


Your master? I didn't realise Likos is running his very own slave house... so that's where all his victims go huh? :P
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Postby safe_as_milk_ » Tue, 06 Sep 2011 01:12

Man, I always knew this place had a sinister underbelly!
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Postby DarkTunde » Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:10

Warm-up Tournament (Hard)

Played against KDZaster’s B. Cannon. Was an enjoyable match, and I tried to test the waters with Fusman and see what he’s about, since I’m the only Fusman around at the moment. The first set had be abandoned after I forgot about the slice button serve glitch, Doh! :oops:


T.Fusman feedback

Ground strokes & Serve: His 74 FH is solid enough, and was the main source of winners and pressurising shots. His 54 BH, nothing special and few winners. 85 serve is a good tool, but I’m not an accurate server :P . I don’t hit the corners/lines when I serve, so I didn’t really get the best from it, unlike KDZaster, who was more accurate. As such, trying to S&V was nervy – I often couldn’t force a ‘weak’ return which I could then put away. Often when I did S&V, I got stuck at net and passed. Nonetheless, if a Fusman user can serve and hit the edges then his Amazing First Volley (AFV) will make it a useful surprise tactic.

Volley & Power: I could see the effect of his AFV. Those initial control volleys were generally crisp! The main challenge was/will be, making sure Fusman doesn’t have to play more than 2 volleys. Any more than that and I was in trouble. One of the things I made sure to do, especially in the 2nd set, was to really explore his range of volleying. I tried various approaches: off short balls, when I was pushed out near the tram lines, as well as attacking off deep shots from Cannon.

My Regular All-Rounder(s) have 66-69 volley + Volley Shots Artist (VSA). As such, when using them, I can sometimes be reckless and approach off shots that were less than optimum, survive the initial passing shot, and then use VSA to play the remaining volleys. With Fusman I realised poor or reckless approaches are a big No, No! If I attacked any ball that wasn’t short, then I either got passed as I came to net... or got 'stuck' at net and eventually passed by the next shot. His 56 volley means you don’t want to be stuck at the net playing too many volleys. His net play is better when waiting for a poor shot, sneaking in, and playing a single volley winner.

Stamina, Speed and Reflexes: Nothing much to say here. Fusman’s are close to those of my regular all rounder, so I’m kind of used to them. I felt ok playing from the baseline. Question will be how his stamina handles a 5 set Grand Slam match.

A comment on B. Cannon: I could feel the difference in power btw he and Fusman, but it wasn’t overwhelming. The power players I faced on the Reg. Tour had power in the 80s, backed up by Instant Rocket, so it could often feel like I was facing a wave of force on every point. With Cannon, his greater power was obvious, but I didn’t feel like I had to hang on with my finger tips in every point. If I could return his great serves, then I was able to get into the point. His Diesel hard Hitting kicked in once he pushed me wide, or forced me to cough up a short ball. He then either hit 2 or 3 power shots to crush me. Which was ok, because it felt like he too had to set up the winner to an extent.

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2nd Set Stats

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