Sh0Case v BrushedBigJJ - Bet-At-Home Open Final

[swifty512]

For the record:

Im better than all of you

[JohnCurveo]

honestly? NO! I will be always the fun player...sh0case is better than me.

ps: you still mad about your loses? ..or is there any good reason why you asking me that querstion and laughing?

I'm not mad about my loses, i think u would beat sh0case with your "tactics". I'm sure. Be warned, im gonna catch u on wt. And playing fairly. Just created the final John Curveo. It's unbeatable. Even sh0 will not be able to beat him.

[Agassi_Return]

honestly? NO! I will be always the fun player...sh0case is better than me.

ps: you still mad about your loses? ..or is there any good reason why you asking me that querstion and laughing?

I'm not mad about my loses, i think u would beat sh0case with your "tactics".

With my tactics? You mean return lobs against the unrealistic und easy serve in TS4 where you can easily hit the lines with 220 kmh on 1st AND 2nd serve? Yep but I dont need to use lobs against Sh0 cause he dont play with high serve attribute.

PS: you mad

[JohnCurveo]

Just kidding But saying it's easy to serve with 85 serve and Babb it's completly false. Not many people can serve like me. There are few players that uses Babb, its hard to play with him.

By the way, the positioning of sh0case is the key of his game, not only hit perfect shots. He's a master on defensive - offensive transition.

[C4iLL]

For the record:

Second

I've listened to you trash me long enough c4ill. You whine about anyone who lobs when your at net and you call others cheaters without proof. Yes I beat you both times we played, and no I wasn't even trying hard...get over it. Ive played others who are much better serve & volleyers than u. You aren't the best as u claimed to me. You don't even guard against the lob and then u whine when someone uses it, lame. I've played many people who guard the lob well and force you to do something else with their skill. The pros guard the lob well too while guarding against passing shots. If pros hovered all over the net and never stepped back when someone lobbed we would see a ton of lobs. Also the way you approach after a soft shot would never work in the pros.

I don't like it when people lob when someone's on the baseline but I'll never do like you and get on the forum and whine about the person.

Oh my dear, you finally answered. I'm really happy you did it really. I'd like to thank you first. Because I loooooove answering messages like that. It's a real pleasure for me to demonstrate how bad and stupid the argumentation of the other can sometimes be.
Unfortunately it's your case, let's begin.

- First thing : I maintain what I've said everywhere about you on this site, you're the King's Lamer, nothing more, nothing less.
Someone who hits 5 or 6 lobs in a row to just win a point has nothing to do on ITST. He doesn't understand what the site is about.

I'm there for more than 1 year on the TS4 tour, i've played the Top Spin 1 tour on the first Xbox there are nearly 10 years now, so trust me, I really know what this site is about.

And by playing against me as you did, you completely miss the spirit of ITST which is based on respect, and fun. If I would be the admin, you would have been banned for life after our match.

And I have to point out the fact, that you would have been the only guy in one year to be banned like that, because I never met someone with such a disrespectful behavior (in like 500 WT matches and 60-70 ITST matches during more than 1 year of TS4 games, I never see that, really !).

You have hit more than 60-70% of lobs during these two little match, and you think it's regular, no problem. Are you insane ? You think that was funny for me to always going catching this **** balls ?
You're proud to get victories in these conditions ? You feel strong ? What's the point ?
Have you got problem in real life, so you need victories in virtual life for to compensante, for your ego ? What's your problem actually ?

I ask you these questions, because I'm serious : nobody ever played as you did against me. Sometimes people played too many lobs, but no one went as far as you, playing them in EVERY circumstancies and EVERY exchanges : services return etc.

It was so ridiculous that even when the court was open, you were playing a lob and lost the point afterwards ! Admit it !

With that story, you not only show you have no skill to hit a passing-shot : you show you're an idiot who can't find regular solutions and who doesn't know what tennis is.

What you did was not only the cheesiest thing I ever seen in that game cheesy, it was above all completely stupid, and shows you have the maturity of a 5 years child.
And the worst in that story, it's that despite all the discussion we had after that match, you did it again in another WT match. That makes you the King's Lamer in my eyes.

- Secondly about my level : you say I'm not the best as SV blabla.
Okay, let's admit it. But where are the proof dude ? It's nice to talk, but bring proof to people. Bring me a performance, a man who has done better things than me in that game with a SV setup, go ahead. You can check of both PS3 and Xbox tour.

Try to bring me someone that at least equals me : for instance, a guy who reached the final of a tournament played by more than 100 people by playing 100% SV throughout the whole tournament, go ahead, because I've done it.

This is the link of the tournament I'm talking about, Rogers Cup 2011, 104 participants : http://www.intertopspintour.net/index.php?p=tournm&tid=2797&pf=xb360_ts4&gc=TS4.
This is definitely the hardest tournament ever played on Top Spin 4 Xbox, because it was the most played and because all the top players of different generations played it.

Among participants you'll find 6 ex n°1 - LokiSharshooter, winner of US Open, Berson, winner of Roland Garros, Fifa Tee, Sh0case, Dapery who all lost in early rounds - and several great other players like Khult, Jimboo, Indiantonike, Norberto....

Oh but.. no... that can't be true... I don't see the famous Grade 55, Mister Brush. You can't be serious !!?? Can we then count that tournament whereas its Altess, the Greatest, the King's Lamer, didn't participate ?
You want the answer ? Yes it counts : you wouldn't have passed the first round, even with your current grade55 level.

Now, as you are addicted to WT - you should have stayed there btw - bring me a SV on WT who has more than 90% of victories in 500 matches.

To beat me, this guy should also be n°7 on ITST, n°4 in Sim tour for months and got into the semi-final of the Barclays Masters @London by playing 100% SV.
Don't loose your time in searches my Altess, except me, no one achieved that. And yourself, even with a baseliner, you won't ever do a quarter of what I did there.

So instead of continuously saying bullshits on this forum, get back to your world tour to train because taking 6-0 6-0 against Sh0case with a baseline setup, it's a shame for a guy who has played more than 1500 matches in World Tour.

And to conclude about proofs, why not showing to people how you played against me at the final of RG ?
After our match you indeed told me you had record the video (I still have the message in my Box). But unfortunately, I'm still waiting for it.
Why ? There are two options :
1) You were lying ;
2) You are ashamed of what you did.

I think you were lying. The question is : someone who lies, and plays in such a cheesy way, has its place on ITST ? I don't think so. ITST is based on trust, good faith, truth and sportsmanship....

[BrushedBigJJ]

That's kind of long winded c4ill. I won't resort to the babyish name calling you do. I bluffed about having a video of our match. I did that to see if you would admit to your glitch returning. If I'm not mistaken that is a rule in itst. But you were smart not to admit it. If I had the video ur glitch return style would be exposed.

But once you started losing you started glitch returning and then approaching. Even with u cheesing like that u still lost. And I won't lob return unless u serve 70 mph and try to approach. You also cheese that way so you can get close to the net.

And I've been beat on world tour by other serve volleyers but I'm undefeated against you. How can you be the best? Also I got beat because they could cover both the lob and passing shots. You can only cover passing shots because you lack skill. If Sampras couldn't cover lobs he wouldn't have 14 grand slam trophies.

[C4iLL]

1) Nice, now, the unfair guy plays the victim and says others are cheating to defend himself, whereas these people have played nearly more 100 matches here and nobody ever complains about them. That's an upside down world...

You're a liar, a cheesy guy, a lamer, and now, you accuse people of things you don't even understand. You are a desperate case, really... Please never join the Tennis Elbow tour ! Stay on the World tour ^^

2) You only beat me @RG final because you used an abusing & stupid way of playing that game...
It's as if I would have beat Sh0case by using slice services from tramline, lag techniques, lob service return or the glitch, and I would be proud... It's not relevant to talk about such a victory, that kind of victory has no value.

By the way, with the previous patch, your lob technic would have been useless as lobs were easier to catch. What would you have done ? You would have lost.
Except your lobs, you were totally unable to pass me on clay : so on grass, or hard, it would have been even worst for you.

And about the second match, I left after 2 games when I've noticed you haven't changed your stupid abused tactic.

3) You always lie so your defeat against volleyers... Hum Hum, I give no credits to that !
Furthermore, shame on you if you have lost against some volleyers, because in this game, baseliners have a huge advantage.

Actually, they have not beat you because they are great (if they would be great, they would be in the top of ITST), but because you are not that good , that's life.

And as you stated you struggle against volleyer, you decided to play lobs lobs lobs against me by frustration. Really nice for me ^^

4) You're the perfect proof the greatest players are there, and not on the WT, your presence proves it... You join the long list of WT players that can't compete with the top players of ITST.

Your theorically superman-volleyers of the WT would take 6-0 6-0 as you there (but not only against Sh0case, against 60% of the tour). But come on, bring them on ITST to see if they can achieve, what I did

[BrushedBigJJ]

I'm the first person to have an issue with your whining on the forum? Where have you been c4ill? That's all u live for is to say why oh why did they press the Y button...why oh why?

You've argued with plenty of people about lobs and topspin shots that go over ur head. And most people agree with me, you should go pound those lobs, but alas you lack the skill to do it which is why we all have to deal with your whining.

And I think I have 1000 points with 6 tournaments while you have 2600 with 30 tournaments. Do the math.

And I don't struggle against serve volleyers. It's been a long time since I lost to one and you didn't break the streak. I passed you to the left and the right and over your head. And you are not the best serve volleyers on ts4...period.

And the 20 ball rallies where someone is at net is totally unrealistic but we all know u love them.

[C4iLL]

1) I'm clearly not the only one to think lobs are an exploit, there are a lot of topics about that problem.
A lot of people have also stopped playing SV because of that (ex : Ranma_Sao on PS3 tour, who had the potential to get as good results as mine on that tour).

2) I've argued against maximum 5 people about that. It's clearly not "my life".

3) The 4-5 guys that used that lob spamming technic have all stopped afterwards (supremeloren, hugo, san99 etc). I called them the Lob Mafia.
When I played them again, they played differently : my messages on the forum were then useful to educate people about that cheesy shot.
The only one who doesn't want to understand (or doesn't have the capbility maybe) is you, the King's Lamer.

And about my SV level, once again, I've written a paragraph about that in my first answer, go and read it. As I said, you will never prove there are better SV in TS4 as no one has ever achieved 50% of what I did on ITST or on WT.

And sorry to tell you that but you've missed the golden age of the tour, where the best players played all in the same period.
As I said, the Montreal tournament of 2011 was the peak with 104 participants, and all the top players.
If you would have played it, you would have been eliminated in first or second round.
Now with only 3 or 4 top players on the tour, you can't compare the ranking you'll get. And even with this lack of top players, I don't think you will ever be top7.

Maybe in 1 year, when you gonna play more and more beginners that has just bought the game, or guys who have stopped training, or people near to stop because they are bored...