Sinna vs. StrategyGuide94 (BNP Paribas Masters)

[o Sinna o]

Regarding the comments that his opponent seemed to just stand still:

I've noticed in online games I've played against characters with high serve ratings, even if I guess in the correct direction while receiving, about half the time my player stands still as if I didn't touch the stick at all.

Not sure if that's a glitch or something to do with the high serve speed but it also happens against AI opponents with high serve ratings, just not as often... so it's not likely to be a lag thing. It's VERY frustrating.

Hm don't have these Problems.

Guys I really love my OFB. Even if my german ITST Mate Strateguide destroyed me today it's just a Pleasure to play with this Character. Exaclty that's the way I would like to play Tennis in real Life. But to hit those Serve could get a lil bit heavy. *lol*

I always liked it to play with Power in my Rallies and use a huge Serve since Top Spin One.

But it's just a matter of Taste and which Style fits you the most.

In TS4 you can be competitive in more ways than we dreamed of in the early Days.

[Wrathchild tw]

I disagree.

I think that Serve and Power ratings trump all. Either of these two at 90+ and you have a HUGE advantage over any player that doesn't.. and if you happen to go with both at 90+ well, it's just ridiculous.

I'm not saying that these are the only setups that a person can win with, just that it is SO much easier to win that than any other. If you were to take two players of roughly equal skill and give one a character with a 90+ in either of those, that player is going to win 70+% of the time. It's already obvious in WT mode - nearly everyone is using it because it's so much easier to win with.

I expect that those that play only to win will decide that is the only setup worth using, and it will become the standard of playing the game. I think that anyone that doesn't believe it's that much of a difference should get a character to level 20 so they can fast create different types. Play at least 10 games online with different types and compare your wins and ease of play.

[o Sinna o]

I disagree.

I think that Serve and Power ratings trump all. Either of these two at 90+ and you have a HUGE advantage over any player that doesn't.. and if you happen to go with both at 90+ well, it's just ridiculous.

I'm not saying that these are the only setups that a person can win with, just that it is SO much easier to win that than any other. If you were to take two players of roughly equal skill and give one a character with a 90+ in either of those, that player is going to win 70+% of the time. It's already obvious in WT mode - nearly everyone is using it because it's so much easier to win with.

I expect that those that play only to win will decide that is the only setup worth using, and it will become the standard of playing the game. I think that anyone that doesn't believe it's that much of a difference should get a character to level 20 so they can fast create different types. Play at least 10 games online with different types and compare your wins and ease of play.

I disagree. And that's because you don't see the Things in TS4 I see.

You have to look behind the Facades you know.(haha that's a german saying and I translated it how we would say it) It's much easier to win against my Character than you may think. You just have to do it the right Way. I saw it against my different Opponents already and from that I know a lil bit what they are able to do with the different Skills and Styles against my Character.

But to be honest. It's really easier for me to play with a offensive Baseliner. But that's not because it's really heavier to play a DFB for example, but rather because I am not used to those Attributes.

[o Sinna o]

It's a matter of Taste you know and the Game is made to decide which Style you love to play.

[pfnerch]

It's a matter of Taste you know and the Game is made to decide which Style you love to play.

you are talking so much bullshit i hope we have soon a rule on the tour bec. players(or what someone like you called????) destroy the whole experience of the game. why you didnt get this in your brain? you think you are a smart Player but you are a cheater in my opinion . get it. that makes me angry. i hate to play against people like you. i can loose a enjoy the game thats no prob for me. yesterday i played ag. tenjil a it was a great game with lots of long rallies a a playtime around 1 hour. thats tennis like it should be. tactic a great rallies with netplay sometimes. your serve a power is a joke for me a much other people at ITST. a forehand with 90 is maybe ok bec. you got a bad backhand or a bad serve. playing with serve 98 a power 98 a to think that this way to play tennis is a joke and tells me that you have no understanding for this great sport. you are proud of your serve but i tell you that my 3 year old daughter could play it a serve like you do. you need nö skill just push the button in a direction thats all. and everybody who tells me or think this stats are ok has no understanding for tennis or is just without skill. thats my opinion a not the way we play on ITST. its a tennisgame a not call of duty where your racket is a gun.

[pfnerch]

ps: i think you let strategy guide win just to show us that you are beatable bec. you are afraid of a rule you have to change your players stats. i know strategy guide is a taff player(i played him sometimes at ITST a thats nothing about your skill man) but breaking your serve is quite impossible. ok everybody can reach the tiebreak ag you but wheres the fun?? Fun for you maybe bec your only opinion is winning a tell everybody how great you are. thats so boring.

[Wrathchild tw]

The warm up tournament is less than a week away - I'm sure that we will see just how well everyone can do against it.

Serving for ace 75% of my points isn't how I would like to play - I'd prefer a baseline player in rallies that requires strategy and skill. But given the current state, I'll be playing a monster serve character because I don't see any other option to having a chance at winning. I probably won't enjoy it at all and won't play TS4 for long if it stays that way.

I'd like to request that for this warm up tournament, all match results that are sent in should include the attribute levels of both players. If I am correct, in the end it will be VERY obvious of how much of an effect this has on the game.

[o Sinna o]

ps: i think you let strategy guide win just to show us that you are beatable bec. you are afraid of a rule you have to change your players stats. i know strategy guide is a taff player(i played him sometimes at ITST a thats nothing about your skill man) but breaking your serve is quite impossible. ok everybody can reach the tiebreak ag you but wheres the fun?? Fun for you maybe bec your only opinion is winning a tell everybody how great you are. thats so boring.

Are you dumb in your Head? Ok sure we both have different Opinions so no need to offence but if the ITST brings out a Rule that I can't use such a legit Character I won't play the Tour. So easy is that. You are talking of it's impossible to break me and have no Clue at all. I mean if you really want strict Attribute and Skills Rules then you have to hope for a Sim Tour. But you are talking just Shit because you lost one simple Match against where where you played like a Moron in the second Set while returning.

Believe it or not. But the Statement of Holla Its Mike is really true. Ofcourse is such a Service a Adavantage in my own Servicegame, but that's just how it should be and nothing unfair because I laid all my Skills and Attributes in this Direction to have such a Service.

I just played a Match against very hard on Nadal in the O2 Arena and I didn't made it to break the CPU in a full Game once. Not once! And that's because of my Disadvantages. Other Guys here bagleing the CPU on very hard sometimes.

I am not talking to much. I just want to make sure that we can use every legit Character on the Tour, because even if a Character as mine has clear Advantages he has clear Disadvantages too, and you are not talking about that! You are only talking about this monterious Service and the Power.

I made a mixed OFB and DFB yesterday for example. He has 12 Levels on DFB and 8 on OFB and a 550 Points overall thorugh the +50 Goldcoach Pei Jing Quah. This Guy has 72 on Power and 85 on Fore- and Backhand and his Shots between the Rallies are cleary better than my 98 Power Guy with 76 Forehand and 66 Backhand. You just have to try those Characters and you will see it's true.

I am not talking to much, I just want to make sure that I can use the Character I want. And impossible to brake is no one in this Game, no matter which legit Character you have. That's just another Point you are talking about what's not true and what the Video against Strategyguide proves.

I didn't break his Character with mine not once in two Matches and he has only a over 60 Service. But he breaked me two Times you are talking about impossible.

[pfnerch]

[ydderFx]

ps: i think you let strategy guide win just to show us that you are beatable bec. you are afraid of a rule you have to change your players stats. i know strategy guide is a taff player(i played him sometimes at ITST a thats nothing about your skill man) but breaking your serve is quite impossible. ok everybody can reach the tiebreak ag you but wheres the fun?? Fun for you maybe bec your only opinion is winning a tell everybody how great you are. thats so boring.

Are you dumb in your Head? Ok sure we both have different Opinions so no need to offence but if the ITST brings out a Rule that I can't use such a legit Character I won't play the Tour. So easy is that. You are talking of it's impossible to break me and have no Clue at all. I mean if you really want strict Attribute and Skills Rules then you have to hope for a Sim Tour. But you are talking just **** because you lost one simple Match against where where you played like a Moron in the second Set while returning.

Believe it or not. But the Statement of Holla Its Mike is really true. Ofcourse is such a Service a Adavantage in my own Servicegame, but that's just how it should be and nothing unfair because I laid all my Skills and Attributes in this Direction to have such a Service.

I just played a Match against very hard on Nadal in the O2 Arena and I didn't made it to break the CPU in a full Game once. Not once! And that's because of my Disadvantages. Other Guys here bagleing the CPU on very hard sometimes.

I am not talking to much. I just want to make sure that we can use every legit Character on the Tour, because even if a Character as mine has clear Advantages he has clear Disadvantages too, and you are not talking about that! You are only talking about this monterious Service and the Power.

I made a mixed OFB and DFB yesterday for example. He has 12 Levels on DFB and 8 on OFB and a 550 Points overall thorugh the +50 Goldcoach Pei Jing Quah. This Guy has 72 on Power and 85 on Fore- and Backhand and his Shots between the Rallies are cleary better than my 98 Power Guy with 76 Forehand and 66 Backhand. You just have to try those Characters and you will see it's true.

I am not talking to much, I just want to make sure that I can use the Character I want. And impossible to brake is no one in this Game, no matter which legit Character you have. That's just another Point you are talking about what's not true and what the Video against Strategyguide proves.

I didn't break his Character with mine not once in two Matches and he has only a over 60 Service. But he breaked me two Times you are talking about impossible.

You sound real desperate to keep your serving god.

[Hamburgerboy27]

So here is the Match I was talking from against StrategyGuide94.
He is a cool friendly Guy by the Way.

So watch and enjoy. You clearly see that Serve and Power is not everything. And this Guy did it already in the second Match we played against, what speaks for the Statement of Holla itz Mike. We never played together in TS4 before these two Matches today.

I mean ofcourse I think that I could beat everybody with this Character and have my Chances, but I can eqaully lose against everybody too, what you clearly see in this Video.

Characters:



Finally! Man uploading is so damn lame that it doesn't get more boring.

Video:

Match

I see a great TS Player StrategyGuide with a very nice Setup and i see a Setup Monster without a Tennis Setup...was sure not funny for StrategyGuide too play you...Your setup is very pitty for this Game!!!

[o Sinna o]

So here is the Match I was talking from against StrategyGuide94.
He is a cool friendly Guy by the Way.

So watch and enjoy. You clearly see that Serve and Power is not everything. And this Guy did it already in the second Match we played against, what speaks for the Statement of Holla itz Mike. We never played together in TS4 before these two Matches today.

I mean ofcourse I think that I could beat everybody with this Character and have my Chances, but I can eqaully lose against everybody too, what you clearly see in this Video.

Characters:



Finally! Man uploading is so damn lame that it doesn't get more boring.

Video:

Match

I see a great TS Player StrategyGuide with a very nice Setup and i see a Setup Monster without a Tennis Setup...was sure not funny for StrategyGuide too play you...Your setup is very pitty for this Game!!!

Yeah he played the better Match and I was so kind to show it to you. And that's it. But big thanks your Compliment.

[emate007]

I think it's really cool that you can upload videos of such high quality. Thank you for sharing.
That said, don't be surprised when you get a bit of criticism for your style in this vid. It is exactly what people who played the ts3 sim tour were avoiding.
Did you play sim at all in ts3? I can't tell from clicking your profile.

[o Sinna o]

I think it's really cool that you can upload videos of such high quality. Thank you for sharing.
That said, don't be surprised when you get a bit of criticism for your style in this vid. It is exactly what people who played the ts3 sim tour were avoiding.
Did you play sim at all in ts3? I can't tell from clicking your profile.

Hehe no I didn't play any ITST Tour in TS3.

[emate007]

OK, then you're a bit new to the problem and subsequent solution:

If you played TS3 on the WT, you ran into 4 types of players.

1. level 30-60
New players, and usually sucked. Very bad at the game.

2. ITST players
Great fun for the most part

3. Balanced/not stacked lvl 70 players
Usually very good, probably joined ITST soon

4. Super stacked players
These people had the most ridiculous setups, with 100 or 90 on 3 or 4 important stats. The player you used in the video fits into this category. Personally, I have no problem with the setup. I had more fun beating stacked WT guys with my mediocre/balanced setup than half the ITST matches I played.

The point is, the people who are giving you shit are complaining because it feels all too familiar. They've already associated you with this annoying group of people from the ts3 WT.

I'll say this - Play however you want, but don't insult or argue with anybody about the result on the forum, it's a waste of time even if it is entertaining for the rest of us (pfnerch is also guilty of post match rage-posting, I know).
But I see you recently insulted not only your opponent but also all of France. Not cool, I think you pissed a lot of people off and not just the French.
So for someone who's not familiar with the ts3 crowd and the problems with that game, you seem to be a little overzealous in your ts4 opinions. Again, I'm glad you're so into the game, but seriously... take it down a couple notches.