Frequently using drop shots with drop shot artist skill?

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Postby MrMackNasty » Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:44

djarvik wrote:@MrMackNasty - you are not even remotely applicable here, You hit what? ..like 5 a match? :lol: We are talking 18 in the first 3 games here :lol: :lol: :lol: - Good match yesterday BTW!

@Yard10 - Sorry, at work now. Will be home in 2 hours or so.


Lol that was a great match yesterday. Wish I could of kept up the pace in the 3rd set though. I am so damn inconsistent its terrible. Ill be brilliant for a set, then just fall apart! But 18 drop shots in the first 3 games? LOL!!!!!!!!
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Postby Yard10 » Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:20

No problem djarvik. we can play tomorrow.

@MrMackNasty - are you MackNasty26?
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Postby Yard10 » Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:32

@MrMackNasty - LOL i didnt notice you put your gamertag below your message. :wink:
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Postby Enummievol » Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:30

djarvik wrote:@MrMackNasty - you are not even remotely applicable here, You hit what? ..like 5 a match? :lol: We are talking 18 in the first 3 games here :lol: :lol: :lol: - Good match yesterday BTW!

@Yard10 - Sorry, at work now. Will be home in 2 hours or so.


Erm 18 is a bit exaggerated,i'd say once per point so that'll be 12 at most, but i insist , against a good baseline defender and to finish long rallies using drop shots frequently is needed. Why limit shots when you want people to be creative and have their own style? (I'm not using drop shot artist anymore by the way, just wondering...)

I just created a player using the method below and im using it most of the time, not satisfied as much as i like so far , might tweak it a little...

Maximum of one stat of 85 and over (not including Volley or Reflex)
- One stroke must be 69 or less (Forehand or Backhand)
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Postby jayl0ve » Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:50

I personally hate it when people hit an extreme amount of drop shots like once or twice every single point...but I actually hit the craziest shot I've seen in this game thanks to a drop shot from my opponent.

I was kinda caught by surprise and just barely stumbled to it, but I was charging a drop shot the entire time I was running and hit THE most extreme angle , close to the net drop shot I've seen...I was running towards the left netpost and my drop shot landed right next to the right netpost after the first bounce :shock:

the other guy didn't even move on the baseline, he was completely surprised.
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Postby Dapery » Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:32

Peto chesire/Aja golakov Overpowered and overused?i don't think so.
You Ban the Ti skill i know but fh100? No difference ti vs fh 100
What i mean is : unban aja and peto or ban drew!
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:04

What the problem is that in top spin 4 drop shots are easy to hit close to the net which sometimes are uncounterable but in real tennis drop shot are a bit difficult to hit and require accuracy... Moreover there is no confirmation that drop shot hitted in real tennis will be winners but in top spin 4 we are almost sure that drop shots will be winner or even if your opponent reaches to drop shot then he will create a shot that is predictable and will be easily returned well by the other guy
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Postby Sherlock 117 » Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:54

Ali-Iqb93 wrote:What the problem is that in top spin 4 drop shots are easy to hit close to the net which sometimes are uncounterable but in real tennis drop shot are a bit difficult to hit and require accuracy... Moreover there is no confirmation that drop shot hitted in real tennis will be winners but in top spin 4 we are almost sure that drop shots will be winner or even if your opponent reaches to drop shot then he will create a shot that is predictable and will be easily returned well by the other guy


That hasn't been my experience. I once played a top WT player who had drop shot artist / volley shots artist skill before the drop shot artist skill was toned down. I got to most drop shots, and there were very many of the drop shots which I hit from the service line, which is pretty realistic. He also missed a fair amount as well.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:12

What was your player's speed?? Only thing that bothers me is that when I reach the drop shots what should I do??? I try to create angles sometimes but my opponent reaches it and hit a return winner before I can reposition myself at the net.. Same happens when I hit flat shot.. So give me advice that what type of shot should I play when I reach the drop shot?
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Postby Rob ITST » Fri, 24 Jun 2011 21:47

Another drop shot is a good counter. Or, slice it deep, keeping it in front of you.
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Postby bigberry » Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:20

I dropshot a lot I would say, 6-7 times in a full 6 game set. If playing a Nadal or Djokovic ill play even more as its hard to hit through the court against them.

I dont use drop shot artist , I use Davydenko,Simon etc

Is this excessive drop shotting ? or poor form ?

I just feel im good at them (usually) :D
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Postby SBR Ironik » Mon, 04 Jul 2011 11:43

Rob ITST wrote:Another drop shot is a good counter. Or, slice it deep, keeping it in front of you.


That :P

Deep slice or top spin down the line is often a winner.
When your opponent anticipate that, the short crossed top spin is a good solution.

Mix all this with counter drop shot, staying mid court or at the net to follow with a deep placed volley.

EDIT: By the way, hitting a good drop shot is really not that easy. You have to go for it in good position and with a perfect timing if you want a good drop shot (Without Drop shot artist).

I "love" when I'm playing a "drop shot cheeser".
Ok he'll win some points with drop shots but soon he'll loose more than he'll win.
It's a matter of patience and anticipation. You have to accept to loose some points to build your victory ^^

(Let me be clear : I hate when people uses drop shots every points but if you want to win you have to keep your mind clear from anger. If you try to manage that and have a good counter strategy he'll loose at the end.)
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Postby Moralspain » Mon, 04 Jul 2011 11:50

bigberry wrote:I dropshot a lot I would say, 6-7 times in a full 6 game set.


in my opinion that's ok
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Postby SBR Ironik » Mon, 04 Jul 2011 12:00

Moralspain wrote:
bigberry wrote:I dropshot a lot I would say, 6-7 times in a full 6 game set.


in my opinion that's ok


I use dropshots much more than that.

Anyway, I think that I use drop shots when it should be used IRL.

For example, a power player with 50 speed camping way behind the baseline and reaching every shots you make : If he makes a short hit, I'll probably do a drop shot.

Or a volley player putting everything back : I'll lob him and if my lob is good i'll follow with a drop shot.

I'm not always doing that for hitting a winner but for making them run and draining their stamina low...

I think it's mostly a matter of when you do it. Maybe doing 3 drop shots a game is not irrelevant.

By the way, does somebody else noticed that there are more and more Wourld Tour players (ab)using drop shots ?
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Postby ray237 » Sat, 09 Jul 2011 00:19

Drop Shot Artist is a skill and i think it can be used whenever we want, cause for example a player with inside-out master always uses his inside-out fh, instead of his bh. It's a skill that must be used exactly like others. If you use it less than 1 point every 3, it makes no-sense, because it's ONE of the TWO ability you have, especially if the other is Smell of Blood.
To win with drop short artist, a player must be also intelligent, because after 2-3 games of drop shotting a lot, your opponents will read your mind and close the point almost every time you call him at net with a drop shot.
I think it's not cheese at all, otherways inside-out master while playing only with fh shots would be cheese, as much as a volley ability while playing s&v.
I think that if the ability isn't banned, you can use (not use, it's better "take an advantage from it") whenever you want.
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