Regular Tour Rule Suggestion #3

[Ary1g]

This post changes accordingly to how the discussions are going.

Max total attribute count: 530.

Max power 90, max speed 91. (These restrictions might not be needed)

This will mean:

Most coaches is reduced to a level 19 player, in order to be allowed to use.

Welsh level 18
Babb level 18
Gallo level 18
Rabari level 18
Neuwirth level 19(might be a problem)



What are your thoughts?

[Tamthewasp]

I'm sorry but welch toned down is overpowered.


This is how i feel any combination of Welch is OP.
There is 5 ps3 players that i no longer consider as being fair as they gave in 2 welch.
I'm tired of this Welch convo, He wont be toned down or banned.
So lets deal with a setup 2 beat welch.
Or if some1 has a clear way 2 win v welch tell us

[Corbon]

As I mentioned in the other topic, the lowest wings you can have with Welch at Lv 20 are 168 and it's stupid to put a level restriction just for one coach. Lowest speed with Slavina is 91 btw.

[Ary1g]

As I mentioned in the other topic, the lowest wings you can have with Welch at Lv 20 are 168 and it's stupid to put a level restriction just for one coach. Lowest speed with Slavina is 91 btw.

Thanks for correcting me on Slavina. Didn't remember she was available at 17 DB.

Welsh's lowest wings is 84 + 79 = 163. He is OP at level 20, just the way Babb is OP at level 20.

[DennieFR1908]

It's useless to keep making threads for this man. IF there will be changes ITST staff can figuire it out for themselves, there is no need in keep coming up with suggestions.

As for your motivations I disagree..

I never see volley players anymore, because since last update it's much harder to play with them, there is no need in restricting anything where nobody complains about anymore.

As for the speed you forget some things. Speed is not only usefull in getting to balls, you are also in position earlier, and like I said before it is also very effective for control shots. Even if welch and his shortcrosses would be banned they have another solution. Slavina 0-0-20 gives you same strokes, more speed and better reflexes. These are the three most important skills for control shots, see link. Restrict speed to 91 and you can still use Slavina in a realistic way (because 91 is his lowest speed, not 94.)

http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/v ... hp?t=16301

For power I agree

Restricting wings is a bit odd. There are only 2 type of setups who can get strokes this high, Welch and Slavina. By banning Welch and restricting speed to 91 both of these problems would be solved. 0-3-17 will be become the new Welch, 160 as total wings, 51 serve, 61 power, 91 (!) speed, 83 stamina and 64 reflex.

So the adjustments that I would make would be

Max 91 power
Max 91 speed
Welch banned (or lvl 18 max but this is a little confusing don't see that happen)

[Ary1g]

It's useless to keep making threads for this man. IF there will be changes ITST staff can figuire it out for themselves, there is no need in keep coming up with suggestions.

As for your motivations I disagree..

I never see volley players anymore, because since last update it's much harder to play with them, there is no need in restricting anything where nobody complains about anymore.

As for the speed you forget some things. Speed is not only usefull in getting to balls, you are also in position earlier, and like I said before it is also very effective for control shots. Even if welch and his shortcrosses would be banned they have another solution. Slavina 0-0-20 gives you same strokes, more speed and better reflexes. These are the three most important skills for control shots, see link. Restrict speed to 91 and you can still use Slavina in a realistic way (because 91 is his lowest speed, not 94.)

http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/v ... hp?t=16301

For power I agree

Restricting wings is a bit odd. There are only 2 type of setups who can get strokes this high, Welch and Slavina. By banning Welch and restricting speed to 91 both of these problems would be solved. 0-3-17 will be become the new Welch, 160 as total wings, 51 serve, 61 power, 91 (!) speed, 83 stamina and 64 reflex.

So the adjustments that I would make would be

Max 91 power
Max 91 speed
Welch banned (or lvl 18 max but this is a little confusing don't see that happen)

Excellent post! I have to agree with you. I will actually change the inital post to your suggestions, as they are even more simple than I initially wrote

[Rob ITST]

I think we should try having Welsh along with Level 18 before banning him.

I'd be interested in some feedback on that suggestion. Not feedback based on speculation, but based on actual play testing. Also, try Babb at OFF level 16, Slavina at DEF 17, and Gallo at OFF 17.

Play some matches with those characters. Play with them, against them, play them against each other, and play them against other characters.

If we're ever going to consider any new rule, it must have some real world testing - not just debates on the forum.

[Ali-Iqb93]

Ok I m up for playing against level18 welch.. Soo someone plzz create level18 welch. I will be ready to play test matches against it

[Ali-Iqb93]

Btw what are the stats for level 19 welch?

[Corbon]

Mac User?



Yes it's Excel but there should be an equivalent for Macs. Basically if you want a 0-1-19 build, just copy the stats of OBL Lv 1 and DBL Lv 1-19 into the top table, adjust F/B and enter the stats of the coach into the Coach column.

[Ali-Iqb93]

I have coach calculator on my laptop.. Just can't find any time..

[C4iLL]

I never see volley players anymore, because since last update it's much harder to play with them

So true...

[Ali-Iqb93]

Can someone create coach calculator for iPhone as well?

[djarvik]

You want to give it a try and make us all an iPhone app Ali? ...or you don't have enough time? ...still waiting on that SIM player.

[Ali-Iqb93]

Ohh I thought you don't need the stats when I pmed you to create a sim player with 13 offensive 4s&v and 3defensive with instant rocket as silver coach skill and check if it's op for sim tour or not.? Anyways if you still want the stats then I ll post it in 10 mins