Ban Welsch Coach

[Avinash PatelBANNED]

Yes or no?
Avi

[SlicerITST]

If you give people the option between yes, no and "lets annoy the topic creator as i can vote anonymously even if i do not really have an opinion on the matter" most of them are gonna go with the last option.

Just saying.

[Avinash PatelBANNED]

Hehya gd point, I jut want to see apart from shocase, Loki, FIFA who else hates me. Same time want to see how much Welsch is really hted

[djarvik]

"anonymously" - you wont see who hates you unless they choose to attach a post to this poll as well.

[Avinash PatelBANNED]

I luv u djarvik

[o Sinna o]

[LokiSharpShootr]

Hehya gd point, I jut want to see apart from shocase, Loki, FIFA who else hates me. Same time want to see how much Welsch is really hted

I dont hate you, i think the way you play is stupid and annoying but against Avinash the person i got nothing against.

Unlike your friend Bretton who has already stated 3 times that he hates me.

[o Sinna o]

Ok just voted Ban Avinash Patel to stay neutral in this Votes.

[ILuvBillVal]

You should totally have a fourth option that says "I need to make myself a giant club sandwich for lunch" and I'd totally get in on this.

[o Sinna o]

By the Way Norberto H played with this Character before his break also and we all know what a Noob and untalented Player he is of course. ^^

You know these Discussions just take away the whole Fun to compete because some Players will always generate some new Excuses.

I want to focus on my Game to become more and more better in the next months and don't want to think about if a few Guys of you respect me because of my Character you know.

I am for far Play also you know, but we need concrete Rules. I know they already exist but I think it's time to accept them like they are at some point and not to come around the corner every two months with some new whiny Character Discussion.

Because if everybody of you Guys is honest, you will admit that you are also playing with the Charactersetup you like the most and with that you can compete and play good.

Or you could proof your REAL Talent with some Bronzecoaches. How about that?


Some of the Responsible should say something to this matter.

[djarvik]

Tier 1 players: Welsh, Rabbari, Neuwirth - are on the same level. Taking one away will hurt, not help the balance. One is fast and consistent, the second is powerful with good serve, third one is a mix of both. Rock, Paper, Scissors.

You could eliminate the whole tire all together, but that will only lead to a Tier 2 players taking their place and the "demand" of banning one of them.

Tier 2 players: Gallo, Slavina, Babb.

There are more tiers, all the way down to the bronze coaches. Does that mean you must use the same tier player to have a chance? No. But you do have to be slightly better then your opponent to win with a lower tier player.

I also think that there are a few players that don't really fit into tiers. Why? Because to me, they can be both, in Tier 1 and Tier 7. It all depends on how they are being used and by whom. For example:

Moore - his skills are Approach Shot Expert (ASE) and Wrong Foot Expert (WFE). He may not posses the power of Gallo, or the quick delivery of that power - Rabbari, or the angles of Welsh, or the speed and reach of Slavina, but he has something else, unique, that can fight these coaches.

I have a character with this coach and I do REALLY well with him (within my skill level) against the top coaches. It is all about playing on my terms, knowing which areas are my strong points and when to utilize them. For example, on returns, instead of pushing the ball deep, I would push it cross short while holding the RB button. If the server happen to even slightly push any other direction but the one I hit to - I get the benefit of the following: ASE (because of holding RB), WFE (because the server goes the other way) and a 71 reflex rating along with decent strokes. I usually max out the BH side, so when someone is trying to serve slice wide to get me of the court - he gets the 81 BH combined with all benefits above. WFE is a great skill, especially if your opponent leaves the ball mid court and you can add the ASE to it, then finish at net with 63 volley. There are few more strategies to this player.


There are other players like that as well, the thing to look for is a way to combine both skills into one shot and rip benefits with both.


My 2c.

[DarkTunde]

Someone save us from the Welch ban madness!!

Where are you General Zod?!

[edlglide]

See, in my experience, Rabari, Neuwirth, and Welch are not on the same tier.
Welch is on his own tier beyond either of them. I don't see any reason to ban either of them....but I can see a reason to ban Welch.

I don't use Rabari, Welch, or Neuwirth, so I've got no bias there -- but in my experience from playing this game for almost a year now, Welch is far harder to play against than either Rabari or Neuwirth. Like I said in my other thread, Welch isn't even fun to play against. And to the person who keeps saying it's whining because you can't win -- hah. I can't win against a lot of guys....I'm just trying to have fun and play fun matches, and I can't do that against Welch. It makes me want to quit the tour when I have to play him 2 out of every 3 matches, because there's absolutely no fun involved.

[o Sinna o]

Tier 1 players: Welsh, Rabbari, Neuwirth - are on the same level. Taking one away will hurt, not help the balance. One is fast and consistent, the second is powerful with good serve, third one is a mix of both. Rock, Paper, Scissors.

You could eliminate the whole tire all together, but that will only lead to a Tier 2 players taking their place and the "demand" of banning one of them.

Tier 2 players: Gallo, Slavina, Babb.

There are more tiers, all the way down to the bronze coaches. Does that mean you must use the same tier player to have a chance? No. But you do have to be slightly better then your opponent to win with a lower tier player.

I also think that there are a few players that don't really fit into tiers. Why? Because to me, they can be both, in Tier 1 and Tier 7. It all depends on how they are being used and by whom. For example:

Moore - his skills are Approach Shot Expert (ASE) and Wrong Foot Expert (WFE). He may not posses the power of Gallo, or the quick delivery of that power - Rabbari, or the angles of Welsh, or the speed and reach of Slavina, but he has something else, unique, that can fight these coaches.

I have a character with this coach and I do REALLY well with him (within my skill level) against the top coaches. It is all about playing on my terms, knowing which areas are my strong points and when to utilize them. For example, on returns, instead of pushing the ball deep, I would push it cross short while holding the RB button. If the server happen to even slightly push any other direction but the one I hit to - I get the benefit of the following: ASE (because of holding RB), WFE (because the server goes the other way) and a 71 reflex rating along with decent strokes. I usually max out the BH side, so when someone is trying to serve slice wide to get me of the court - he gets the 81 BH combined with all benefits above. WFE is a great skill, especially if your opponent leaves the ball mid court and you can add the ASE to it, then finish at net with 63 volley. There are few more strategies to this player.


There are other players like that as well, the thing to look for is a way to combine both skills into one shot and rip benefits with both.


My 2c.

"After the Master has spoken there was a smooth Silcence under the followers."

You know if a experienced Guy like you saying those things I believe it because I know you have knowledge of the Game as one of the Responsible, because you have a real clue what you are talking about and because you are brained combined with this Game since the Begining to offer us a good Competition here.

A few Guys have to lead this Store here and that's must and ok.

[Alex-4487]

Tier 1 players: Welsh, Rabbari, Neuwirth - are on the same level. Taking one away will hurt, not help the balance. One is fast and consistent, the second is powerful with good serve, third one is a mix of both. Rock, Paper, Scissors.

You could eliminate the whole tire all together, but that will only lead to a Tier 2 players taking their place and the "demand" of banning one of them.

Tier 2 players: Gallo, Slavina, Babb.

There are more tiers, all the way down to the bronze coaches. Does that mean you must use the same tier player to have a chance? No. But you do have to be slightly better then your opponent to win with a lower tier player.

I also think that there are a few players that don't really fit into tiers. Why? Because to me, they can be both, in Tier 1 and Tier 7. It all depends on how they are being used and by whom. For example:

Moore - his skills are Approach Shot Expert (ASE) and Wrong Foot Expert (WFE). He may not posses the power of Gallo, or the quick delivery of that power - Rabbari, or the angles of Welsh, or the speed and reach of Slavina, but he has something else, unique, that can fight these coaches.

I have a character with this coach and I do REALLY well with him (within my skill level) against the top coaches. It is all about playing on my terms, knowing which areas are my strong points and when to utilize them. For example, on returns, instead of pushing the ball deep, I would push it cross short while holding the RB button. If the server happen to even slightly push any other direction but the one I hit to - I get the benefit of the following: ASE (because of holding RB), WFE (because the server goes the other way) and a 71 reflex rating along with decent strokes. I usually max out the BH side, so when someone is trying to serve slice wide to get me of the court - he gets the 81 BH combined with all benefits above. WFE is a great skill, especially if your opponent leaves the ball mid court and you can add the ASE to it, then finish at net with 63 volley. There are few more strategies to this player.


There are other players like that as well, the thing to look for is a way to combine both skills into one shot and rip benefits with both.


My 2c.

what about a limit to welchs wing s to stop both sdies being as strong as a forehand atleast you will have a chance agisnt welch with a toning down of the attributes