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Postby Moralspain » Sun, 01 May 2011 17:19

Time for a reminder, Cro Morgan created a thread back in 2008 which is still valid nowadays, so read carefully.

Thanks in advance guys and please stay away of hitting drop shots in every single point

ITST Member:

As you may or may not know, "cheesy" is a term used to describe a style of play that most players consider to be unfair. The style takes advantage of the games limitations, making it completely unrealistic compared to real life tennis. Examples of this would be: risk slice returning from inside the baseline, serving from the far corners (tramlines), lobbing returns, drop shot returns, among other things.

These are just examples. The point is, these tactics are used in an attempt to gain a cheap and easy win.

The reason for this post is to issue a reminder to everyone playing at the ITST.

The ITST is a place where like-minded players get together and compete. It is a safe place where our members play fairly. We are all here to enjoy the structure the ITST provides and to enjoy the friendly community that has been established.

We have always resisted the temptation to place restrictions on the type of shot(s) that can be played during ITST matches. We've done this to allow a variety of playing styles to be present on the tour so everyone can enjoy the game to its fullest.

That said, there are universal "unwritten" rules concerning "cheesy" play. We've never had to make firm rules because the ITST community respects their existence. They involve playing fairly & not using the known "cheesy" tactics that lessen this game.

We are proud to say that the majority of our community follow this ethos closely, but if you are someone who doesn't, considered yourself warned: "cheesy" play in ITST matches is never tolerated.

If you are uncertain whether your style of play is considered "cheesy", then simply ask the question in the Forum, or contact an ITST manager.

Also, if you encounter tactics in an ITST match that you consider "cheesy", don't keep it to yourself. Contact the tournament host and/or manager immediately. Only by speaking up can we rid the tour of any and all unfair play.

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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Sun, 01 May 2011 18:58

Drop shots??? In ts4 the drop shots I think aren't cheesy.. And we also need much pefection to hit them... I m talking about hitting drop shots during rallies not returning the serves with drop shots... Who else think that drop shots in ts4 are cheesy? Outwide serves can be considered cheesy in both ts3 and ts4
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Postby djarvik » Sun, 01 May 2011 19:34

Ali-Iqb93 wrote:Drop shots??? In ts4 the drop shots I think aren't cheesy.. And we also need much pefection to hit them... I m talking about hitting drop shots during rallies not returning the serves with drop shots... Who else think that drop shots in ts4 are cheesy? Outwide serves can be considered cheesy in both ts3 and ts4




I am not saying you wrong, but hitting drop shots is hard? :? maybe its me, but I find beyond easy. The only thing that is somewhat hard, is to hit them as winners. But if you anticipate well, you can almost always get a put away on the next shot after drop shot if your opponent gets to it, providing of course you pick your times to "drop".
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Postby L Sanchez MD » Sun, 01 May 2011 19:35

You occasionally see Fed hitting a drop shot return of serve, so I don't think it's a cheesy shot, but I get the gist of the post, which is good. Over use of any of these shots destroys the fun/realism.
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Postby djarvik » Sun, 01 May 2011 19:39

Cheesy applies more to the tactic, style of play, rather then any one shot.
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Postby Moralspain » Sun, 01 May 2011 20:14

L Sanchez MD wrote:Over use of .....


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Postby supinesmokey13 » Sun, 01 May 2011 20:16

L Sanchez MD wrote:You occasionally see Fed hitting a drop shot return of serve, so I don't think it's a cheesy shot, but I get the gist of the post, which is good. Over use of any of these shots destroys the fun/realism.
Yea especially when on clay he did a fews at the french in 09 when he won it and against robredo in 07, and gonzo in 08
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Postby lucagiaco » Sun, 01 May 2011 21:18

fOR ME DROP SHOT IN THIS GAME IS CHEASY AND ABSOLUTLY UNFAIR..
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Postby tigerofintegrity » Sun, 01 May 2011 21:49

I'm not sure hitting them too often is unfair either. Whenever I've played someone that hits too many of them, I end up anticipating it and after awhile, easily get to most of them and putting them away. They usually stop after they realise it's not working out anymore. Maybe because my character has good speed though. Not sure how much it would affect slower players.

I still don't think it's necessarily 'cheesy' if it's done often provided you have good reason to. Say you're playing a defensive baseliner and they get everything back and you struggle to finish points. I think it's perfectly fine to try and push them deep and then drop one short against them often, especially if your character doesn't really have the power to hit through them. That's more like strategy to me. I guess it's context dependent too.
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Postby L Sanchez MD » Sun, 01 May 2011 23:17

Not attempting to troll or stir, but it's interesting to see how often Federer used the drop in this match
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq33L8K2mVs

Notice many of them come in the first few games, then there are none for the rest of the set. (Also, they're not serve returns, just regular drops)
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Postby Hollaa Itz Mike » Sun, 01 May 2011 23:19

jok3r fr hits a dropshot on about every single point when he plays me...cheesy player...
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Sun, 01 May 2011 23:55

Hollaa Itz Mike wrote:jok3r fr hits a dropshot on about every single point when he plays me...cheesy player...


woah lets watch the accusations man. it was not the point of the thread to start naming cheesy players
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Postby VillaJ100 » Mon, 02 May 2011 00:12

Regarding the drop shot in TS4, i think it was designed to drag baseliners towards the net so its easier to punish low volley stats/ take advantage of passing shot attributes, in my opinion
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Postby Hollaa Itz Mike » Mon, 02 May 2011 01:20

Coolhand Texas wrote:
Hollaa Itz Mike wrote:jok3r fr hits a dropshot on about every single point when he plays me...cheesy player...


woah lets watch the accusations man. it was not the point of the thread to start naming cheesy players


woah dude, sry to offend u, just stating my opinion, just like everyoen states there opinion that anyone who uses TI/MD (me) is cheesy...dont call out 1 side and not the other ;)
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Postby lucagiaco » Mon, 02 May 2011 01:44

If a player play in every single points a drop shot is a chesy player...Take the point "easy"...
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