Top Spin 4 - Player Balancing Updates

[Hawkeye Miihawk]

I have played the game alot. The reason that people are able to get to balls alot on online is the catch up lag.

Where you hit your shot and the guy looks like at the last second he gets to the ball and gets it back to you.

There is actually a very large difference between a 40 speed and 80+ speed which is fine.

Just the mixture of lag lets them get to alot of balls that they would not be able to get to offline.

I disagree with this. I've had many virtually lagless matches with people that have 40 in speed. I had 1 this morning in fact. They move too fast. Just like serving, speed needs to be tweaked. 40 is too fast, and once you have 60 speed, you can do just fine.

[djarvik]

I think the problem is not they seem fast, the problem is with quality of the shot coming from them on the run. Especially of the dead runs.

In professional tennis everyone is fast. It may seem like one guy is slower then the other when you watch it on TV, but believe me, even the slow guy is extremely fast.

The power guys with low speed ratings "should" get to most if not all balls - but the quality of the resulting shot should be poor.

[Hawkeye Miihawk]

I think the problem is not they seem fast, the problem is with quality of the shot coming from them on the run. Especially of the dead runs.

In professional tennis everyone is fast. It may seem like one guy is slower then the other when you watch it on TV, but believe me, even the slow guy is extremely fast.

The power guys with low speed ratings "should" get to most if not all balls - but the quality of the resulting shot should be poor.

This is another problem. The thing though is that in real life you have realistic "characters", lol, so to speak. No one has 40 speed with 98pw 98 srv 98 fh. You can't do what you can do in TS4 in real life. There's nothing wrong if somone wanting to go 20 OFB with 40 speed, but at the same time they should be punished for their poor movement.

As you also said, their shot accuracy, placement, and efficiency while hitting shots on the run is too good. This was in one of my complaints and I hope it really gets addressed. Those guys can hit winners while on the run because of the power. While the topspin invasion monster defense characters can pull out unbelieveable angles on the run.

[ItaStallion]

Ivo Karlovic is pretty much 40 speed 98 power and 98 serve guy in real life lol.

he is still able to get to alot of balls.

[polakis]

No more top spin invasion and monster defence cheaters...

I am no35 in the world on xbox live and i only loose from top spin invasion guys...

Please make an update. Its unrealistic...

[djarvik]

No more top spin invasion and monster defence cheaters...

I am no35 in the world on xbox live and i only loose from top spin invasion guys...

Please make an update. Its unrealistic...

Hey there, welcome to the board

Have you read my first post on the first page? Here is a part of it I am referring to, note the words in red

Any form of complaints about TS4 will be deleted.

Use this thread to discuss this and future Player Balancing Updates ONLY.

Thank you,

AL

You are more then welcome to contribute with constructive criticism, suggestions, ideas and etc... but if you simply wish to express your not liking a certain setup - do so in another thread.

Thank you for cooperation and welcome to ITST!

[Coolhand Texas]

djarvik i see where you are coming from about guys with 40 speed and 98 power coming up with big shots on the run.

Are you saying it should be impossible to hit the big shots on the run, or just make it the timing window very small. I mean guys like gonzo hit huge shots on the run, but then again you wouldnt have a gonzoe with 40 speed in real life

[djarvik]

I am saying that it should be hard. Not impossible, but rather hard. I am saying they should be able to put a racket on most balls...but the resulting shots should not be "counter-puncher" like. They should be more "stay-in-the-point" kinda shots.

[gckiss]

Hey guys, I'm from Brazil.. can you tell me if there's a link on the net to this update or is just via PSN ? If there's a link, can somebody send me please ?!

Thanks a lot!

[Sherlock 117]

Hello Gckiss,

First of all, Welcome!

This update happens automatically the first time you play the game and are connected to the online network after the patch. Since the update happened several weeks ago, you probably have already received the update.

[gckiss]

Hello Gckiss,

First of all, Welcome!

This update happens automatically the first time you play the game and are connected to the online network after the patch. Since the update happened several weeks ago, you probably have already received the update.

Quick answered, thanks!

The thing is that I don't have access to the PSN.. I'm using multiMAN and Jailbreak, since my PS3 is unlocked, I can't access the PSN.. so I'm just wondering if this update was available as a .PKG file so I can download it.. If any of you guys could get me the update file and upload it to me it would be great! And sorry about my english!

Thanks!

[Banthasmaker]

No more top spin invasion and monster defence cheaters...

I am no35 in the world on xbox live and i only loose from top spin invasion guys...

Please make an update. Its unrealistic...

I agree with this guy on the matter of top spin invasion/ monster defense players.

I think that it'll be beneficial to the whole TS4 community if these two abilities are re-balanced. As we can all see, 90% of the world tour players who do win tournaments etc... have nearly the same profile (0 SV, 10 or 12 ABL and 8 or 10 DBL) and it makes the matches quite repetitives.

Maybe the matter is on the mobility of all the created players-I do notice that movings in general with created players are heavier than with the game pros.

Hope it'll be corrected! The game is so great that would be a shame to not balance it.

[VillaJ100]

They should have made it so to get a great serve you have to invest points into SV. OBL will make your serve hard, but not highly rated

[Tuurbine]

Hello people

I would have to agree with the Speed thing, I am no expert in the game, but the matches I have played online I really feel no difference between a player with 50 speed, and one with 85 speed, they both reach almost all of the shots, and the worst part is that the players with low speed reach the ball and return it with so much power and angle that its frustating.

I understand that there will always be amazing players, good players, regular players, and not so good players... but speed is constant... it should be the same for all, that means, 50 speed is 50 speed, its not 85 speed, its 50! So having a great player with amazing FH BH stats, huge POWER and very very low speed will make you think, ok, he is strong but I am fast, I will use my speed as a strategy to compensate for his lack of speed.... WRONG, he will reach each and every ball as long as the rally goes (stamina is another thing that should be worked out, liittle to none difference between low and high stamina)

I used to have a TSI/MD player, changed it to a very defensive one, 19 DFB, 1 OFB to experiment with a "fast" player... I play with guys that have 45 speed and run like the roadrunner on steroids...

Dont get me started with TSI and MD...

[Tuurbine]

Oh yes I forgot, GRUNTING!! Please playing against women players who grunt on every point is like torture LOL, my wife thought one time I was watching some xxx rated top spin !