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by **ItaStallion** » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:19

I understand Zero. But you and I know very well the game plays perfectly.

All that needs to be tweaked is player movements that stutters occasionally and the direct match loading forever glitch.

But if they change it they change it over defending the game now.

Like right now the game require good timing and player positioning to win which is exactly how a tennis game should work. If i can time my Serve to paint the lines like i could pre-patch good on me it means i worked hard on that aspect of my game.

But since the update as well there has been constantly less people on World Tour and more complaining on other forums. Meaning people are not liking the change.

They only change a small part of the game in the update imagine by the end this game is going to be completely dead online since the game would have changed significantly from the beginning and people will hate it.

As long as timing and player positioning stay dominate and I am able to win purely on skill not get out-lucked from a beginner i will continue to play the game.

But seriously i can see them changing this game to please these ITST folks so we are going to see heaps of unforced errors even with perfect timing it seems, i can see power play dominating this game and everyone just using 85 + power with every point lasting 3 shots Serve, Return and then Winner.

But i guess we will see.

by **andman666** » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:27

I think your exaggerating a litt;e bit :lol:

If 2K want to keep their own identity, then they will most likely not change very much about TS4.
To change the timing aspect of the game can take months, I think making the game out of nowhere more unforced errors friendly is too big of a thing to change

by **ItaStallion** » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:33

Everyone is asking for TI/MD to be nerfed and asking for more unforced errors so yes this is the eventual game that will become if you do these things.

Just saying i don't want to hit a perfect shot and see the ball sail wide or long. Cause that there will make me and many others stop playing the game.

If your good enough to hit perfect shots all the time whether it be control or power i want to constantly paint the lines like it is now. It makes sense.

by **Caexander Arist** » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:12

Are you guys telling me with all the coaches and possiable setups there is nothing as powerful as T/I M/D?

by **edlglide** » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:19

ItaStallion wrote:Everyone is asking for TI/MD to be nerfed and asking for more unforced errors so yes this is the eventual game that will become if you do these things.

Just saying i don't want to hit a perfect shot and see the ball sail wide or long. Cause that there will make me and many others stop playing the game.

If your good enough to hit perfect shots all the time whether it be control or power i want to constantly paint the lines like it is now. It makes sense.

I think if you hit perfect shots every time then yeah, you shouldn't be making errors.

What they need to do is make it MUCH harder to hit a perfect shot. Power shots should have a smaller timing window than control shots, and if your player is sprinting cross court, etc. the window should be even smaller. That way if you are trying to rip a cross court power short into the back corner while on the run, you have a pretty high chance of making an error, and thus it's a risky shot to play. Would be a lot safer to just slice one back to stay in the point....the way the game plays right now there's really no reason to not go for winners on every single shot.

by **brazegoesmoo** » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:22

I'm seeing a lot of __/Instant Rocket lately, so that may be the latest fad to beat TI/MD. Soon we'll be complaining about __/Instant Rocket until the next coach combo comes out that's great against that.

by **djarvik** » Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:31

^ I don't know man. I spent time yesterday on WT and looked at every top 10 setup. All TI-MD. I went further, spot checking and once again, a large majority still use that setup.

by **Wrathchild tw** » Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:08

ItaStallion wrote:I understand Zero. But you and I know very well the game plays perfectly.

All that needs to be tweaked is player movements that stutters occasionally and the direct match loading forever glitch.

You really can't say the game plays perfectly but this needs to be changed. What if my game play style involves using the player movement stutters - should I be upset if they change it because a majority of the people think it's a problem?

by **brazegoesmoo** » Fri, 15 Apr 2011 01:06

djarvik wrote:^ I don't know man. I spent time yesterday on WT and looked at every top 10 setup. All TI-MD. I went further, spot checking and once again, a large majority still use that setup.

Just trying to stay positive haha

by **ItaStallion** » Fri, 15 Apr 2011 01:12

player stutter and direct match glitches need to be fixed... More people complained about this than The Serving which was fixed so yes this needs to be fixed.

the rest of the game is perfectly fine to me... if i have good power and ground stroke 81+ you are able to hit those angles at ease in this game which makes sense.

The skills barely do anything and only come into play like monster defence when you are trailing. Or top spin Invasion when you keep using TopSpin shots in a long rally.

I don't use Top Spin Invasion or Monster Defence my guy has big ground strokes 81+ and he is able to hit the same angles as the TI/MD guys i don't see the problems at all.

If i hit a late or early shot the angle isn't so great obviously. But my timing i usually have down pat and can hit angles like you wouldn't believe.

by **Vieira151** » Fri, 15 Apr 2011 03:07

brazegoesmoo wrote:
djarvik wrote:^ I don't know man. I spent time yesterday on WT and looked at every top 10 setup. All TI-MD. I went further, spot checking and once again, a large majority still use that setup.

Just trying to stay positive haha

I use an Instant Rocket coach. But it's for my safin so I felt it made sense :oops:

by **dsavbeast012** » Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:32

The TI/MD is definitely overpowered. This should not be a game where you're able to win by using one button, and TI/MD makes it exactly that. It's practically impossible to hit UEs in general on this game, but especially w/ the TI/MD skill set. The sooner 2K puts out a tuner for this the better.

by **brazegoesmoo** » Sun, 17 Apr 2011 22:08

On the outside I go "oh it's beatable, don't worry."

On the inside I go "omg.. why do I have to have all the stress of trying to beat this wtf mode and he's having a cakewalk"

Thoughts on having to play TI/MD on first round of ITST tourney

by **brazegoesmoo** » Sun, 17 Apr 2011 22:15

Honestly I wish everything were more even so I don't have to go "oh wow, he had TI/MD. that's why I lost."

Stuff like this that makes me have to resist making a TI/MD character for tournament play.

by **edlglide** » Sun, 17 Apr 2011 22:43

brazegoesmoo wrote:Honestly I wish everything were more even so I don't have to go "oh wow, he had TI/MD. that's why I lost."

Stuff like this that makes me have to resist making a TI/MD character for tournament play.

Yeah, I got crushed by a TI/MD guy earlier today in Barcelona -- he was better than me, so I'm not saying that is the reason he won, but the combination of the stutter step/freezing movement and the crazy angles he hit just made it not even fun to play. Almost every shot he hit was either right off the back corner line or at a crazy short angle, even when he was hitting it while sprinting across the court at full speed.

I didn't retire; I went ahead and played the whole match...but it just wasn't even fun. I don't want to have to go with a specific set-up to feel like I have a chance to compete.

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